lodash slower than underscore? Isn't lodash's primary purpose to be a more performant drop-in for underscore? Would love to see these benchmarks in a jsPerf.
Guess not. http://jsperf.com/ldash-vs-underscore
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#12I think it's great that there is such an amount of active development in the JS sphere, and I'm sure your framework is fantastic - so don't take this as directed at your framework specifically. That being said...
I am however feeling so overexposed to new libraries and frameworks that I can hardly muster the energy to even look at it. I constantly feel that I'm behind on my homework having to evaluate new libraries and frameworks showing up. Every two weeks, another one shows up with another paradigm shifting approach.
I am getting increasingly apprehensive about committing myself to learning anything new, because in two weeks there's another shiny framework that everyone is proclaiming as the next wunderkind. Sorry about the 6 months spent learning it, but now we're doing something new.
The amount of time where I feel that I am confident and productive with a library or framework is getting shorter and shorter, and more and more of my time learning, I feel is wasted.
Sorry to barf all over your post - like I said, it's nothing specifically with your framework, and it looks very shiny on the surface, but I think I'll just get back to work instead of studying it in greater detail.
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#13lodash slower than underscore? Isn't lodash's primary purpose to be a more performant drop-in for underscore? Would love to see these benchmarks in a jsPerf.
I have discussions with lodash creator. jsblocks is only faster in some cases and almost the same speed in other cases. Underscore is slower in general than lodash just the test cases shows some isolated scenario.
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#14This is interesting, but it doesn't excite me. My initial reaction is to be curious as to why it's able to thrash underscore and lodash (and React too, but separately) on speed. There could be many reasons for this. Maybe I'm personally not interested in adopting a new framework, maybe your target audience (which includes me) has some sort of fatigue or lack of interest, maybe speed isn't enough of a reason to sell m…
I think it's because people are tired of the thrashing between/around the "next big thing." Angular was supposed to fix everything, React is still trying to fix everything... But even Atom stopped using React because it was so slow.
As for this framework, I'd be happier if it came in discrete chunks that you could wire together, because if you're not happy with one part of it, you don't have to accept it. You can instead build your own.
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#15> Well, one problem is declarative programming has never been as expressive as imperative programming. In React you'd use JavaScript for this iteration. This is why I like React over say Angular, with ng-each, ng-if, etc. Flow control does not belong in markup. I cringed the first time I saw an XML schema with an IF element.
I would argue that React is a declarative style as well, the difference between it and the above example being that JS is far more expressive than HTML.
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#16This is interesting, but it doesn't excite me. My initial reaction is to be curious as to why it's able to thrash underscore and lodash (and React too, but separately) on speed. There could be many reasons for this. Maybe I'm personally not interested in adopting a new framework, maybe your target audience (which includes me) has some sort of fatigue or lack of interest, maybe speed isn't enough of a reason to sell m…
I think it's because people are tired of the thrashing between/around the "next big thing." Angular was supposed to fix everything, React is still trying to fix everything... But even Atom stopped using React because it was so slow. As for this framework, I'd be happier if it came in discrete chunks that you could wire together, because if you're not happy with one part of it, you don't have to accept it. You can ins…
Nice hearing that. I am currently working on making the framework more modular. This is create powerful individual modules that could be used for other purposes not only in MV* Framework.
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#17People here dismissing this framework due to 'fatigue' or 'overexposure'. It's weird as I don't recall hearing this when React started to see adoption 8 months ago.
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#18I think it's great that there is such an amount of active development in the JS sphere, and I'm sure your framework is fantastic - so don't take this as directed at your framework specifically. That being said... I am however feeling so overexposed to new libraries and frameworks that I can hardly muster the energy to even look at it. I constantly feel that I'm behind on my homework having to evaluate new libraries a…
So don't study it then? It's perfectly fine to continue using what you are using. Most recruiters talking to me still ask for Angular, even if I consider it a little hairy and prefer not using it.
After being in the JS sphere for a while and living with these changes, I have learned a lot. Because there is nothing new under the sun, these all do pretty much the same thing - but in different ways. There are tradeoffs, and by working with and making big and small products in different frameworks, I've learned how to learn. Picking up new things are not always needed, but the more you expose yourself to different libs, frameworks and platforms, the better you get at it.
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#19Is isomorphic JavaScript a thing? Isn't it just 'using jsdom'?
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#20I think it's great that there is such an amount of active development in the JS sphere, and I'm sure your framework is fantastic - so don't take this as directed at your framework specifically. That being said... I am however feeling so overexposed to new libraries and frameworks that I can hardly muster the energy to even look at it. I constantly feel that I'm behind on my homework having to evaluate new libraries a…
I understand you very well. My todo list called 'stuff to check out' grows so fast that sometimes I'm thinking about clearing it out and just start another one.