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Re: John Nash Has Died

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Post by eropple »

sukilot wrote: post #98
sgift wrote: post #58

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Good. Now, we have an active act of non-compliance with an (hopefully? please?) existing law that forces you to buckle up. Let's start the fines with 1k and see if this helps, if not, go up. Not buckling up is so insane, I cannot even begin to imagine it ..

Fine someone for hurting themself? How nanny. Just note that negligence is liability for their injury medical costs.

This might be a surprise to you, just a touch, but liability for injury costs is effectively meaningless when you've killed someone.

Re: John Nash Has Died

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Post by encoderer »

vt240 wrote: post #134
tombrossman wrote: post #103

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I'm not sure the claim is true. I only have one personal experience to base this on (fortunately) but I was in an accident as a passenger in a Jeep Wrangler which ended up upside-down on its roll-cage. Both the driver and I were hanging from our belts and had no problem undoing the buckles. We had to do it one-handed with our other hand trying to support ourselves so as not to drop on our heads after releasing the bu…

I was in a severe single car accident in a 80s era truck, where I ended up rolling many times down into a ditch, and finally resting upside down. Seat belt did not release, the button was just solid, and I had to hold my body up to un-catch the strap ratchet so that it would relax, and I could wiggle out. In the whole event, the hardest part was kicking out the driver side window to get out of the cab. The only part…

I'm only in my 30s so I don't have a strong recollection of it, but it seems that buckle design change pretty significantly in the 90s.

Re: John Nash Has Died

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Post by revelation »

kvcc01 wrote: post #24

Seeing Prof. Nash enjoying his walks on campus is one of my fondest memories from grad school. This is very sad. I was curious to learn more about his work a while ago and had looked up his PhD thesis. Here's a link: http://www.princeton.edu/mudd/news/faq/topics/Non-Cooperativ... . What struck me was that it only had 2 references to prior work! That's how you know you're doing innovative research.

It also seems to be all of 30 pages long.

Re: John Nash Has Died

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Post by encoderer »

EGreg wrote: post #131
btgeekboy wrote: post #123

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Some of them, yes. I've been on some buses (usually tour buses in some part of Europe) where the driver insists everyone buckles up.

Buses are bigger so in the event of a crash (unless it's into a mountain) the change in momentum isn't as big.

Or a tractor-trailer, certainly?

Re: John Nash Has Died

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Post by aidenn0 »

SilasX wrote: post #132
higherpurpose wrote: post #13

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That's why I really like cars which make a sound if you don't have your seatbelt on. That way they don't give you the choice of not wearing the seatbelt and it's how it should be . This is why in such cases I strongly believe governments should force companies to enable something like that. The social norms are stupid and this would give you the excuse to ignore them without giving it a second thought (hey, the car i…

I like that feature, but I hate how the alarm goes off as soon as the car turns on. That just annoys me, and is the wrong time to give the warning, since you'd have to put the seatbelt on before turning on the engine, which it's much faster to do the latter first. They should hold off on the warning until you've shifted the car out of park.

Every car I've had doesn't alarm until it's shifted out of park (it has a light always when on, it starts blinking when you shift out of park, and then beeps after ~30s in gear, or in one case after you go over 5MPH (I had to look up that one in the manual)).

Re: John Nash Has Died

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Post by willis77 »

axaxs wrote: post #77

I never understand why people don't wear seat belts, even in cabs. I think the thought is that it's the city, you probably won't be going fast. But humans are really bad at judging just how fast they are travelling. Imagine I asked you to absolutely sprint full speed into a tree while blindfolded. So no time to brace yourself or slow down. You'd probably refuse, thinking this will either hurt very badly or even perma…

Cycling is great for giving an appreciation for what 20-30mph really feels like, without the car disconnect. Same as your sprinting example: go get a bike, find the steepest hill you know of, pedal as fast as you can down the hill (this is going to be 30-40 mph), then ask yourself if you'd like to hit a brick wall in that moment. Most people who are otherwise comfortable riding without seatbelts would be peeing pants and grabbing brakes long before 40mph.

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Post by david-given »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #29
ufo wrote: post #15

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I have gotten into the habit of always checking if the seatbelt is there before I get into a taxi and if its not I ride on the front seat. Well, I guess at least now I can tell a story about a famous guy who died from not wearing a seatbelt in the taxi whenever I get those odd looks from people. I have always wondered why its so common to find cars with the rear seatbelts missing. The common story I get from taxi dri…

This is probably true. Most Beijing taxis are missing rear seat belts, usually shoved somewhere. Given Beijing traffic, it is quite scary, especially when the taxi driver looks like they are at the end of a 20 hour shift.

When I was working in Beijing, the seatbelts were usually there, but tucked underneath the seat cover (and so inaccessible).

I'm from the UK, where using a seatbelt is pretty much universal, and when getting into the cab I'd automatically pluck at where the seatbelt should be.

Once when I was taking a ride with our agent there, a local, and he saw me do this, he told me off quite sharply for it...

Re: John Nash Has Died

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Post by biot »

jakejake wrote: post #139
cletus wrote: post #11

The culture around seatbelts in the US confounds me. As an Australian I've spent my entire life wearing seatbelts. It's second nature. I don't even think about it. Taxis or otherwise. In fact I think it's required in all cases. But in the US people seem to view the choice to turn a mild car accident into a severe or even fatal one as some kind of moral stance or personal freedom. Or rather any effort to require their…

The culture in the U.S. Is very much pro-seatbelt. Grizzly TV and billboard ads run all the time (in fact I just saw one last night). The slogan here is "click it or ticket" and police will ticket you for not wearing your belt. For some bizzare reason though, it is somehow acceptable to not wear a belt when you are in a taxi, as if you are magically protected by the "professional" driver. I'm not 100% sure but it may…

Unless they use bears in the TV and billboard ads, I think you meant to say "grisly".
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