there is another video about the design of the surface:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Ignite/2015/BRK2326
Building Microsoft Surface Pro 3 [video]
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#22Amazing talk! MSFT has done a great job with SP3.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Unfortunately the Pro 3 uses an n-trig 256-pressure levels sensor, which has a much lower resolution than the previous versions which were Wacom based. For writing/jotting down is ok, but for drawing the difference is noticeable. The lower sensitivity takes a toll when you try to customize the response curve... >I'm appalled why so many tablet vendors don't ship with a digitizer built-in. Strip that useless rear-fac…
Unless you're some serious super-artist that does massively high res painting and lives in Photoshop or whatever all day, their sensors are fine. The guy that draws Penny Arcade dicked around with a Surface 3 Pro and now he absolutely loves it and does a lot of art on it. No real issues reported (and any issues hes reported has been fixed quickly by Microsoft, which, well, Microsoft actually fixing issues promptly fi…
Microsoft always was awesome on hardware... from keyboards to Xbox and now the surface.
surface would be my killer portable platform of they ever have a mix of the 3 and pro 3... a small screen one with the ram and speed of the pro.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Unfortunately the Pro 3 uses an n-trig 256-pressure levels sensor, which has a much lower resolution than the previous versions which were Wacom based. For writing/jotting down is ok, but for drawing the difference is noticeable. The lower sensitivity takes a toll when you try to customize the response curve... >I'm appalled why so many tablet vendors don't ship with a digitizer built-in. Strip that useless rear-fac…
> Supposedly implementing N-Trig over Wacom allows the device to be thinner From the video, power consumption & latency were the driving factors.
That's strange, N-Trig used to be notoriously laggy when compared to Wacom. I guess the technology has come a long way.
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#25I really love the discussion about making the friction hinge, it looks really cool, though I think over engineered. I think the most elegant friction hinge design I have ever seen was on my Panasonic CF-73. It's almost 14 years old now, used every day for at least 10 of those years, and I still use it time to time, and the hinge works perfect!
Here is an image of it: http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m8yCFI6LbAmeo1QDFT4iT...
Simple, stupid, works :) Though for the surface, there is a requirement to make easy to open at first, first 20 degrees or so, which requires complexity.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Supposedly implementing N-Trig over Wacom allows the device to be thinner From the video, power consumption & latency were the driving factors.
That's strange, N-Trig used to be notoriously laggy when compared to Wacom. I guess the technology has come a long way.
There was a Penny Arcade[0] article a year ago talking about the drawing lag. I suppose Microsoft spent/spending quite a significant amount on the implementation.
[0] http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2014/06/16/surface-pro...
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You won't want to do that without Windows 10, enabling Hyper-V before Windows 10 resulted in you loosing connected standby, but with Windows 10 it works great.
Connected Standby only works for a couple of Windows Store / Metro Apps though. I don't think that's a big loss...
It also means that your startup resume is slower and such, as you have to do a full sleep instead. Personally I've used the alarm and stuff too.
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There is a subreddit for this, although I'm not sure what the current state-of-the-art is http://www.reddit.com//r/surfacelinux Here's a thread specifically about the Surface 3 (non pro) http://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/comments/35dmup/surface...
So the short answer is that it does not work. Lots of fiddling and they dont even get the native resolution working according to the posts.
That's the Surface 3 (not the Surface Pro 3). Apparently, some distros work on the Pro 3 fairly well (though not without issues).
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#29The Surface Pro 3 is really sweet. Main reason: the stylus and high-quality screen. This is the closest thing to a digital sketchpad yet. I've been waiting for the Sony A4 e-ink tablet forever (and several other e-ink products that never materialized), and finally gave in to the Surface. Unfortunately, despite being much better than what I expected, it's not great to use outdoors or in bright light. However it does b…
> Unfortunately the Pro 3 uses an n-trig 256-pressure levels sensor, which has a much lower resolution than the previous versions which were Wacom based. For writing/jotting down is ok, but for drawing the difference is noticeable. The lower sensitivity takes a toll when you try to customize the response curve...
It's not the pressure levels that cause me problems with drawing as much as the inaccuracy in slow strokes. You can't do careful drawing with precise strokes, because the moment you slow down it starts to waggle around as it interpolates across the screen's grid. Lines bow outward into a faint square pattern.
Here's what happens if you try to draw a set of parallel lines: http://i.imgur.com/NUM64KO.png
I love mine in spite of that, and it works for quick sketches where curve smoothing covers the digitizer inaccuracy. But I wish I could draw on it. Maybe the next iteration will tighten things up.