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Re: John Nash Has Died

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Unless you're working in a club or going there very frequently, I'm not sure wearing earplugs is going to make a big difference Edit: see below for a better definition of frequently

In my case, in college, I would go to a club or show that was hearing-damaging probably at least once a week. Hundreds of shows a year, so I think that would qualify as very frequently as you say. One of my friends was in a band and over the years that I knew him, I noticed he started to mix down his own music recordings hotter and hotter on the treble. I asked him why he was doing that and he said "I don't know, thi…

Ah yes, from one a week to hundreds per year is definitely going to have an important effect

Bands usually should be using ear protection as well.

Re: John Nash Has Died

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post #11

The culture around seatbelts in the US confounds me. As an Australian I've spent my entire life wearing seatbelts. It's second nature. I don't even think about it. Taxis or otherwise. In fact I think it's required in all cases. But in the US people seem to view the choice to turn a mild car accident into a severe or even fatal one as some kind of moral stance or personal freedom. Or rather any effort to require their…

Well, cletus, perhaps I can shed some light on this troubling question for you. Generally speaking (and there are naturally many exceptions, humans being the delightfully-flawed creatures that we are), the American government prefers to treat its citizens like competent adults who would rather not die if a suitable alternative presents itself. And so we don't generally have laws that require us to look both ways before crossing a street, or laws against poking angry bears with sticks and such like. America would rather you were smart enough not to do that sort of thing.

Of course, we have laws that all children must be suitably restrained in a motor vehicle because, hey, they're not adults. And we have laws that drivers must wear a seat belt because...well, I blame the insurance companies for that one. But America hopes you'll wear one anyway, because it's the smart thing to do.

The corollary, if you'll forgive my noticing, is that your government doesn't think you're smart enough to wear one on your own.

And so it's not really a "moral stance", but rather a general preference that our government not treat us like a bunch of ignorant monkeys. America wants you to live a long, happy life, but hey, you take your chances. Because you're an adult. And America will be sad if you fuck up and don't wear a seat belt, but life goes on. Mostly.

And now you may point out all the places where this convenant breaks down. The Drug War. The "Broken Windows" model of policing. The (up and coming!) Surveillance War. Well, fair point. Sure, we're flawed, remember? And so we try to make it better, over the long slog of decades. Sometimes it even works.

But the key idea, I think, is that by letting people fail, by letting them do stupid things, by treating them as fallible but sovereign citizens rather than a bunch of ape-men that need to be continually managed, they might become better, all on their own.

We'll let you know how it goes.

I hope this helps.

Re: John Nash Has Died

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post #9

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I'm going to start buckling up in cabs now. Same as wearing earplugs at clubs, you might get weird looks, but it's better to be uncool than dead (or living with tinnitus).

Does it surprise you at all that I also carried around a set of earplugs on my keychain all through my college years? I highly recommend these as they don't change the audio spectrum very much compared to the foam kind: http://www.etymotic.com/consumer/hearing-protection/er20.htm... I think I just really like low-impact high-reward behaviors. People tend to over-insure for common and minor issues and under-insure for…

I use these: http://www.amazon.com/Vater-Percussion-Musicians-Ear-Plugs/d... – the same if not slightly better than the Etymotics and more likely to be available at your local music store.

++ advice to adjust the depth. I'm always modulating them based on the environment / band / track playing.

Re: John Nash Has Died

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Here's a fun fact: the yellow school busses most North Americans get trucked to school in usually don't have seatbelts. The reason is that they follow a different school of thought regarding safety. The basic idea is that instead of giving everyone seatbelts that unruly kids won't adjust properly and will use to whack each other's teeth out, you make really high padded seats so that in the case of an accident the pas…

A counterexample to the notion that seat backs are good enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0JlqtntMt0

Those are not the same seat backs that school buses use. School bus ones are far more "cushy" and flat.

Also, that was an... odd collision; getting rear-ended usually does not eject the driver out the front nor flip a bus on its side.

Re: John Nash Has Died

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post #6

Such a tragic loss. Like many people, I never wore a seatbelt while riding in a taxi. I'm not really sure why, it just seemed somehow to be the social norm and I went along with it. Then one day, my co-worker and his girlfriend were both severely injured while in an accident crossing the east river in manhattan. Ever since then, I've gotten in the habit of using my seatbelt while in a taxi, car, bus, or whatever. Som…

"Seatbelt culture" probably depends greatly on the local culture. In the UK, the driver of a taxi is allowed to not wear one, but not the passengers. http://www.driving-law.co.uk/offences/seat_belts-exemptions....

Also in Germany, where the driver is allowed not to wear a seatbelt while carrying passengers, but has to wear a seatbelt as long as the taxi is empty (passengers are always required to wear seatbelts).

Re: John Nash Has Died

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post #18

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I _always_ buckle up, even in bus. I've gotten looks from taxi drives in south Europe for this, they treat it as an insult. I feel it's better to insult than be dead. Afaik since you get fined quite severely in Norway where I live (and most of Europe) if you don't wear a seat belt, the rate of use is much higher than the US. He will be missed. Hopefully it can put focus on such a simple thing to save lives.

Oddly, you get fined in the U.S. for not wearing a seatbelt in the car you're driving ("Click it or ticket!") but I've never heard of someone being cited for not wearing one in a cab. Is it because it's the back seat?

Front & rear seat belt laws vary by state; here's a summary of each state law, though it doesn't mention the taxi exemption.

http://www.ghsa.org/html/stateinfo/laws/seatbelt_laws.html

Re: John Nash Has Died

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People just fasten the seat belt while they're not sitting in the seat then sit on the fastened belt.

Good. Now, we have an active act of non-compliance with an (hopefully? please?) existing law that forces you to buckle up. Let's start the fines with 1k and see if this helps, if not, go up. Not buckling up is so insane, I cannot even begin to imagine it ..

Fine someone for hurting themself? How nanny. Just note that negligence is liability for their injury medical costs.

Re: John Nash Has Died

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post #6

Such a tragic loss. Like many people, I never wore a seatbelt while riding in a taxi. I'm not really sure why, it just seemed somehow to be the social norm and I went along with it. Then one day, my co-worker and his girlfriend were both severely injured while in an accident crossing the east river in manhattan. Ever since then, I've gotten in the habit of using my seatbelt while in a taxi, car, bus, or whatever. Som…

>I've gotten in the habit of using my seatbelt while in a taxi, car, bus, or whatever. Are there seatbelts in buses?

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Re: John Nash Has Died

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post #55

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Seatbelts protect other passengers in the car. People are terrible at assessing risk and they probably need a gentle legislative push for some things, like seatbelts.

Alright. Often there's only one person in the car though, and what I said applies to other things too.

We're not talking about other things. We're talking about seatbelts.
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