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Building Microsoft Surface Pro 3 [video]

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The Surface Pro 3 is really sweet. Main reason: the stylus and high-quality screen.

This is the closest thing to a digital sketchpad yet. I've been waiting for the Sony A4 e-ink tablet forever (and several other e-ink products that never materialized), and finally gave in to the Surface.

Unfortunately, despite being much better than what I expected, it's not great to use outdoors or in bright light.

However it does blow away the Galaxy Note and basically every "capacitive pen" you can try. The Note in particular has a ridicolous pen: too small to handle, horrid lag, missed strokes, very poor pen sensitivity and high screen glare even with office lights. I re-sold mine just after a few weeks.

The Surface stylus feels just like a regular pen, which is great. There's no space in the device for it, but if you see the depth of the tablet you realize that you cannot possibly fit it in there without sacrificying the pen itself. I'm glad they didn't shrink the pen.

Unfortunately the Pro 3 uses an n-trig 256-pressure levels sensor, which has a much lower resolution than the previous versions which were Wacom based. For writing/jotting down is ok, but for drawing the difference is noticeable. The lower sensitivity takes a toll when you try to customize the response curve...

I'm appalled why so many tablet vendors don't ship with a digitizer built-in. Strip that useless rear-facing camera and put a digitizer in there! You could go as far as selling without the pen by default, as long as there's an option to buy one!

Re: Building Microsoft Surface Pro 3 [video]

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The Surface Pro 3 is really sweet. Main reason: the stylus and high-quality screen. This is the closest thing to a digital sketchpad yet. I've been waiting for the Sony A4 e-ink tablet forever (and several other e-ink products that never materialized), and finally gave in to the Surface. Unfortunately, despite being much better than what I expected, it's not great to use outdoors or in bright light. However it does b…

>Unfortunately the Pro 3 uses an n-trig 256-pressure levels sensor, which has a much lower resolution than the previous versions which were Wacom based. For writing/jotting down is ok, but for drawing the difference is noticeable. The lower sensitivity takes a toll when you try to customize the response curve...

>I'm appalled why so many tablet vendors don't ship with a digitizer built-in. Strip that useless rear-facing camera and put a digitizer in there! You could go as far as selling without the pen by default, as long as there's an option to buy one!

Supposedly implementing N-Trig over Wacom allows the device to be thinner. This explains why Microsoft was willing to make the tradeoff. It also explains why most vendors don't use digitizers. I wish they did, but everyone is obsessed with making the thinnest device possible, even at the expense of functionality.

Re: Building Microsoft Surface Pro 3 [video]

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The Surface Pro 3 is really sweet. Main reason: the stylus and high-quality screen. This is the closest thing to a digital sketchpad yet. I've been waiting for the Sony A4 e-ink tablet forever (and several other e-ink products that never materialized), and finally gave in to the Surface. Unfortunately, despite being much better than what I expected, it's not great to use outdoors or in bright light. However it does b…

I was appalled by the Samsung Galaxy Note when I tried one. The pen would draw without even being in contact with the screen.

Tablets and digital sketchpads are sort of alien to me as concepts. I like a pen and paper for sketching and a desktop when I'm designing/developing. A laptop for on-the-road server maintenance or random, trivial updates to projects (though some of these tasks can even be done from my iPhone).

The iPad and the Chromebook just about make sense as your go-to device when you can't sleep or you're having a lazy Sunday morning. Or as web-browsers while you're watching a movie and need to Google something more interesting that the shitty movie you're watching. But these are kind of luxury devices considering that I can use my phone for these tasks, so the tablet-tier device seems to be an expensive statement accessory.

That said, I've tried a few tablets. Especially since my wife kept pressuring me to buy her one. So I tried the Nexus 7 & 10, the Surface and the iPad. The Surface was by far the least crippled of the devices.

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The Surface Pro 3 is really sweet. Main reason: the stylus and high-quality screen. This is the closest thing to a digital sketchpad yet. I've been waiting for the Sony A4 e-ink tablet forever (and several other e-ink products that never materialized), and finally gave in to the Surface. Unfortunately, despite being much better than what I expected, it's not great to use outdoors or in bright light. However it does b…

>Unfortunately the Pro 3 uses an n-trig 256-pressure levels sensor, which has a much lower resolution than the previous versions which were Wacom based. For writing/jotting down is ok, but for drawing the difference is noticeable. The lower sensitivity takes a toll when you try to customize the response curve... >I'm appalled why so many tablet vendors don't ship with a digitizer built-in. Strip that useless rear-fac…

I've pulled apart wacom tablets before and the panes really aren't that thick, you're talking a single layer of flex PCB. I find it difficult to believe that this was the defining reason for them not using it in their hardware. The 8 bits of resolution they ended up with are probably not all ending up being useful either, which sounds like a pretty disappointing user experience.

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post #3

The Surface Pro 3 is really sweet. Main reason: the stylus and high-quality screen. This is the closest thing to a digital sketchpad yet. I've been waiting for the Sony A4 e-ink tablet forever (and several other e-ink products that never materialized), and finally gave in to the Surface. Unfortunately, despite being much better than what I expected, it's not great to use outdoors or in bright light. However it does b…

>Unfortunately the Pro 3 uses an n-trig 256-pressure levels sensor, which has a much lower resolution than the previous versions which were Wacom based. For writing/jotting down is ok, but for drawing the difference is noticeable. The lower sensitivity takes a toll when you try to customize the response curve... >I'm appalled why so many tablet vendors don't ship with a digitizer built-in. Strip that useless rear-fac…

> Supposedly implementing N-Trig over Wacom allows the device to be thinner

From the video, power consumption & latency were the driving factors.

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Did somebody already install Linux on it? I think my next laptop will either be a MacBook 12 inch or whatever this new very light apple laptop is called. Or a Surface 3. I just need to be sure it runs Linux.

Surface can run Linux since Surface 1.

http://www.geek.com/microsoft/linux-users-rejoice-heres-ubun...

I'd definitely look into just... installing Hyper-V and then installing Linux as a VM. But people have wiped the Surface Pro for Ubuntu.

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Did somebody already install Linux on it? I think my next laptop will either be a MacBook 12 inch or whatever this new very light apple laptop is called. Or a Surface 3. I just need to be sure it runs Linux.

I was using Fedora on it for daily software development for a couple of months. Almost everything was working perfectly. I ended up switching to a Dell XPS 13 2015 though. The main issue I had with linux on the SP3 was that I couldn't enter the hard drive password without an external keyboard on boot. (Lots of tips on /r/SurfaceLinux)
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