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What are red flags that signal you should walk away from a startup job?

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Re: What are red flags that signal you should walk away from a startup job?

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post #2

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WarningSignsOfCorporateDoom

Seriously, way better the quora link. Some proven to me through direct first-hand experience.

Especially level 2's last bullet point (keep your eyes and ears open), which reminds me of this:

http://steveblank.com/2009/12/21/the-elves-leave-middle-eart...

Re: What are red flags that signal you should walk away from a startup job?

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post #9

1) Communication during the hiring process. There's not much else that should be more important to the startup at that moment than you. If they are not fighting to hold your interest you should walk (unless they have a damned good explanation). 2) If you ask the MD what their turnover is and they cannot answer the question coherently. (true story).

MD?

Re: What are red flags that signal you should walk away from a startup job?

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One thing that really turns me off is when people talk really negatively about former employees.

I met a CTO of a company in Toronto who told me how his predecessor had set up MySQL all wrong. I pressed him for details, and it was not setup any differently to how I would have. This was not in the context of an interview, but it left a very lasting negative impression.

Re: What are red flags that signal you should walk away from a startup job?

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post #9

1) Communication during the hiring process. There's not much else that should be more important to the startup at that moment than you. If they are not fighting to hold your interest you should walk (unless they have a damned good explanation). 2) If you ask the MD what their turnover is and they cannot answer the question coherently. (true story).

MD?

Sorry, Managing Director. Hailing from the UK.

Re: What are red flags that signal you should walk away from a startup job?

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"But ALWAYS trust your gut on NOT to do something. If your gut tells you to not work at a particular company (or to stop dating someone), trust it implicitly as your gut is much better at saving your life than it is at figuring up upside opportunities."

The problem with this is that we have no data on people who had a gut feeling that something was not right but were wrong about that gut feeling. People would tend to talk about times when "I should have listened to my gut about this" but rarely would tend to talk about when their gut was wrong and they were worried for nothing. (And I can think of several personal examples of this type of thing.).

Re: What are red flags that signal you should walk away from a startup job?

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post #4

no 1 should be "when it stops being fun" and this applies to all jobs

How would you apply this to lawyers, doctors, and the working poor?

Lawyers are often known assholes, and in most cases have fun pretty much exclusively at other's expense. I hope their jobs aren't fun, because when it is, it can be deeply disturbing.

Doctors can assuredly have fun in responsible ways, and you know what? I want my doctor to be a happy person who enjoys their livelihood, because if they aren't happy... well...

The working poor are an explicit example of what becomes of you, should you find yourself lashed to unsavory tasks as a life sentence. Very obviously no fun. What little fun there may be, is incidental. Asking that question is sort of tone deaf. Like asking:

  Well what about the cow in the barn? Is she on board 
  with becoming a hamburger after she's done giving us 
  all that milk? We'd better ask.
One has to assume that no one aspires to a life of working poverty. It just sort of happens to you, like a cruel prank. Possibly as a direct result of lawyers having fun.
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