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Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Re: Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Post by mhuffman »

jcbrand wrote: post #38
mhuffman wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right of course. I was referring to the rare countries in Africa that social, economic, and health issues. My apologies.

Yes, because all issues need to be tackled sequentially.

No, in fact my original post said I am all for multi-tasking. I do not understand the knee-jerk reactions agains prioritization, however. I guess I am just of the mind that if your country has the world's highest rates of rape, murder, assault, and unemployment are having trouble feeding your citizens, perhaps Internet censorship may not be a top priority -- perhaps your resources aren't being focused enough.

Re: Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Post by thescrewdriver »

mhuffman wrote: post #37
thescrewdriver wrote: post #30

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Ah yes, the good old republic of Africa. Who is the president of Africa?

You're right of course. I was referring to the rare countries in Africa that social, economic, and health issues. My apologies.

SA, like any country, has a variety of issues. Check out: http://www.news24.com for a better idea of current issues.

Re: Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Post by mhuffman »

thescrewdriver wrote: post #42
mhuffman wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right of course. I was referring to the rare countries in Africa that social, economic, and health issues. My apologies.

SA, like any country, has a variety of issues. Check out: http://www.news24.com for a better idea of current issues.

That is a very interesting link. Thank you. The electricity situation, in particular, I was unaware of.

Re: Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Post by mhuffman »

snaix wrote: post #34
thescrewdriver wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, the good old republic of Africa. Who is the president of Africa?

"republic of Africa"? Africa is a continent that consists of at least 54 separate countries. It is like asking "Who is the president of Europe".

It was a snippy comment. If you don't specify "South" Africa (which itself is a generalization), people can get jimmies rustled. It is like saying I live in America. People know exactly what you mean from context, but some will be pedantic about "America" including many countries in North and South America.

If there were no context (not the situation with this post), then it could lead to confusion.

Re: Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Post by spitcode »

buyx wrote: post #7

The only saving grace is that the Department of Home Affairs (of which the Film and Publications Board is part) is so incompetent that their reach exceeds their grasp, and it is relatively easy to circumvent their authoritarian tendencies. Until recently many South African Apple device owners had Kenya accounts to buy games (including most educational content) because of the Board's refusal to allow South African App…

It really does not matter how well the try to enforce this law if they have the power to do so we have a serious problem

Re: Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Post by arandomafrican »

frozenport wrote: post #32
spcoll wrote: post #3

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Factors that prevent states from going totalitarian: - small size - decentralized/local government structure - limited geopolitical influence - high level of education of the population - history/culture of democracy Large, powerful states with a lesser educated population will inevitably drift towards totalitarianism over time. This implies the use of various means of population control, with total surveillance bein…

>>Large, powerful states with a lesser educated population will inevitably drift towards totalitarianism How about India? Don't treat states or societies as people, they are not people rather they are made of people. Totalitarianism isn't the outcome of a system it rather the outcome of the people oppress and the cowards who do nothing to stop it.

I'm not sure India is the best example either.

Sure, at the National political level, it's a democracy.

But there are several issue that allow citizens of some lesser democratic states enjoys more freedom in some cases... (it's very un-even though)

Religious rights, women's rights... Or the amount of power that some have at the local level (cast issues, landowners, etc..).

Re: Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Post by Terretta »

mhuffman wrote: post #44
snaix wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"republic of Africa"? Africa is a continent that consists of at least 54 separate countries. It is like asking "Who is the president of Europe".

It was a snippy comment. If you don't specify "South" Africa (which itself is a generalization), people can get jimmies rustled. It is like saying I live in America. People know exactly what you mean from context, but some will be pedantic about "America" including many countries in North and South America. If there were no context (not the situation with this post), then it could lead to confusion.

> Like saying I live in America

Not exactly. The true size of Africa:

http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/2010/10/tru...

Re: Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Post by snaix »

thescrewdriver wrote: post #35
snaix wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"republic of Africa"? Africa is a continent that consists of at least 54 separate countries. It is like asking "Who is the president of Europe".

That's what my post was getting at, over-generalising about an entire continent...

Sorry, replied to the wrong thread. Was obviously meant for the parent thread :-/

Re: Africa's Worst New Internet Censorship Law Could Be Coming to South Africa

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Post by mhuffman »

Terretta wrote: post #48
mhuffman wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a snippy comment. If you don't specify "South" Africa (which itself is a generalization), people can get jimmies rustled. It is like saying I live in America. People know exactly what you mean from context, but some will be pedantic about "America" including many countries in North and South America. If there were no context (not the situation with this post), then it could lead to confusion.

> Like saying I live in America Not exactly. The true size of Africa: http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/2010/10/tru...

Well, I was comparing continents to continents and countries to countries, not the US to all of the African continent. How does your image look if you overlay the entire continent of the Americas over the continent of Africa?
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