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Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

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Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#11

Post by TheSisb2 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #3
tnuc wrote: post #2

And you need to install windows 10 to get the new browser. Is Microsoft coupling their browser again?

They're giving away Windows 10 for free. So they're copying Apple's strategy and instead of back-porting, just get everyone onto the latest version.

Getting people to the latest version is the problem. People are still reportedly using IE7! Upgrading isn't about purchase cost, it's about labor cost and general know-how.

I honestly thought IE11 would be the last major IE release, guess I was wrong. This new one looks no better.

Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#12

Post by eropple »

balls187 wrote: post #7
outside1234 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like Safari in MacOSX, Mobile Safari in iOS, Chrome in Android or Firefox in Ubuntu? Yes. A browser is sort of a non-optional thing in an OS these days seeing how this world wide web thing is popular.

While every OS ships with a browser, I think the OP was asking "do you have to install windows 10" in order to get the new MSFT Browser. IIRC, those examples you listed, you don't need to install the latest OS X to get the latest version of Safari (though you need to have a recently supported OS).

You've always needed a reasonably recent version of OS X to use up-to-date versions of Safari. The window for "reasonably recent", right now, is Windows 10. There is no basis in fact to claim that Edge+1 will not support Windows 10, too.

Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#13

Post by tosh »

TheSisb2 wrote: post #11
Someone1234 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're giving away Windows 10 for free. So they're copying Apple's strategy and instead of back-porting, just get everyone onto the latest version.

Getting people to the latest version is the problem. People are still reportedly using IE7! Upgrading isn't about purchase cost, it's about labor cost and general know-how. I honestly thought IE11 would be the last major IE release, guess I was wrong. This new one looks no better.

It's easier to 'sell' people free updates without a lot of perceived upsides for the end-user than to 'sell' them that they also have to pay for the update :)

Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#14

Post by TheSisb2 »

tosh wrote: post #13
TheSisb2 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting people to the latest version is the problem. People are still reportedly using IE7! Upgrading isn't about purchase cost, it's about labor cost and general know-how. I honestly thought IE11 would be the last major IE release, guess I was wrong. This new one looks no better.

It's easier to 'sell' people free updates without a lot of perceived upsides for the end-user than to 'sell' them that they also have to pay for the update :)

Unless I'm going crazy, I don't think your comment makes grammatical sense. Both of those options are made to sound bad (without upsides, also have to pay?)

In any case, I'm not doubting that it's easier to pitch an update if it's free. All I'm saying is that purchase cost isn't the main or only barrier to Microsoft software updates.

Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#15

Post by rockdoe »

outside1234 wrote: post #6
balls187 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, that's a Yes, Microsoft is coupling their browser.

You mean like Safari in MacOSX, Mobile Safari in iOS, Chrome in Android or Firefox in Ubuntu? Yes. A browser is sort of a non-optional thing in an OS these days seeing how this world wide web thing is popular.

You missed the point what "coupling" means. Chrome runs on Android but also runs elsewhere. Same for Firefox.

Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#16

Post by danieltillett »

GlickWick wrote: post #9
higherpurpose wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We still don't know how that is going to work yet. Will they cut off updates at some point. Do users have to pay for Windows 10.1? Will all future versions of Windows forever be free for those who bought Windows 7/8? etc

It's hard to say, but Apple has definitely learned that people don't like paying for minor-ish OS upgrades. I hope Microsoft has learned from that.

I would definitely pay Apple for an upgrade of snow leopard.

Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#17

Post by balls187 »

eropple wrote: post #12
balls187 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While every OS ships with a browser, I think the OP was asking "do you have to install windows 10" in order to get the new MSFT Browser. IIRC, those examples you listed, you don't need to install the latest OS X to get the latest version of Safari (though you need to have a recently supported OS).

You've always needed a reasonably recent version of OS X to use up-to-date versions of Safari. The window for "reasonably recent", right now, is Windows 10. There is no basis in fact to claim that Edge+1 will not support Windows 10, too.

No need to be defensive.

I'm simply stating the following sentence is true:

Windows 10 and Edge are coupled.

Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#18

Post by ikeboy »

higherpurpose wrote: post #8
Someone1234 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're giving away Windows 10 for free. So they're copying Apple's strategy and instead of back-porting, just get everyone onto the latest version.

We still don't know how that is going to work yet. Will they cut off updates at some point. Do users have to pay for Windows 10.1? Will all future versions of Windows forever be free for those who bought Windows 7/8? etc

Free for one year.

Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#19

Post by ikeboy »

balls187 wrote: post #7
outside1234 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like Safari in MacOSX, Mobile Safari in iOS, Chrome in Android or Firefox in Ubuntu? Yes. A browser is sort of a non-optional thing in an OS these days seeing how this world wide web thing is popular.

While every OS ships with a browser, I think the OP was asking "do you have to install windows 10" in order to get the new MSFT Browser. IIRC, those examples you listed, you don't need to install the latest OS X to get the latest version of Safari (though you need to have a recently supported OS).

Please go check when the last Windows version of Safari was released.

Re: Delivering Fast JavaScript Performance in Microsoft Edge

#20

Post by joshuapants »

balls187 wrote: post #7
outside1234 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like Safari in MacOSX, Mobile Safari in iOS, Chrome in Android or Firefox in Ubuntu? Yes. A browser is sort of a non-optional thing in an OS these days seeing how this world wide web thing is popular.

While every OS ships with a browser, I think the OP was asking "do you have to install windows 10" in order to get the new MSFT Browser. IIRC, those examples you listed, you don't need to install the latest OS X to get the latest version of Safari (though you need to have a recently supported OS).

You can't use Safari 8 on Mavericks. In a sense they backported some features to Safari 7 (as well as security updates, etc), but it's a distinct version and a very different browser.
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