Fuck [iPhone developers] those condescending, ignorant, self-important, stupid, blind, fearful pricks. Fuck them real hard. Where it hurts. And fucking them real hard where it hurts is exactly what Apple is doing right now. We choose the world we want to live in, and I don't want to live in a world where writing like this is unremarkable. It adds nothing to the overall argument and coarsens us to no purpose. I am sym…
PPK: "Apple is not evil. iPhone developers are stupid."
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Re: PPK: "Apple is not evil. iPhone developers are stupid."
#22While he basically raises some valid points, he ignores two critical ones: 1) With the appstore being the one authority to get apps on your iPhone, you will automatically get much less traction using the web 2) The appstore makes it VERY easy for the devs to actually get paid. If you launch your app web-only, you have to incorporate the whole payment process yourself, which sucks. Catch 22...
Re: PPK: "Apple is not evil. iPhone developers are stupid."
#23While he basically raises some valid points, he ignores two critical ones: 1) With the appstore being the one authority to get apps on your iPhone, you will automatically get much less traction using the web 2) The appstore makes it VERY easy for the devs to actually get paid. If you launch your app web-only, you have to incorporate the whole payment process yourself, which sucks. Catch 22...
I don't know if this is already done. But the second point really begs for an entrepreneur to solve this. A simple model for payment for web apps, you could support one off sales, subscriptions models etc. Make an API for developers and handle all the credit-card processing stuff.
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Re: PPK: "Apple is not evil. iPhone developers are stupid."
#24Mobile Safari could be the most powerful web experience in the world, but without a simple, trusted payment mechanism, it'll be largely ignored by "stupid" iPhone developers.
Re: PPK: "Apple is not evil. iPhone developers are stupid."
#25Apple intended the review process to be basic third-party QA--something that the commercial software industry needs in general--but the noisy, trivial slush like "Dial Girlfriend" and apps that show a few P.D. pictures lifted off Google Images are tying up Apple's resources and making it a chore for users to find anything good.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your first point is so valid. Having created a webapp for the iPhone myself there really are few places I can go to put my webapp on a stage that anyone cares about. If someone knows of any I honestly would love to know where they are.
Why not create an iPhone app, which is simply a WebKit view dedicated to your web app? The client see's it as a "iPhone app" you can host/sell it in the store, but it's really just a web app. (Maybe there's a restriction on this, but I can't see why there would be...)
Re: PPK: "Apple is not evil. iPhone developers are stupid."
#28Audio. QED
(Not to mention the iPod Touch, often used out of wireless range.)
Re: PPK: "Apple is not evil. iPhone developers are stupid."
#29Re: PPK: "Apple is not evil. iPhone developers are stupid."
#30iPhone developers are part of the problem: specifically the ones who create a zillion "shovelware" apps, some so pointless that Apple has got to the point of banning entire developers. Apple intended the review process to be basic third-party QA--something that the commercial software industry needs in general--but the noisy, trivial slush like "Dial Girlfriend" and apps that show a few P.D. pictures lifted off Googl…