I wonder whether the journalist purposely used this as the article's final sentence to demonstrate that politicians don't "get" science/technology... or maybe relating a length of time to a distance slipped past the writer and editor(s) as well.
Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
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Re: Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dubuquer here. This was totally the City of Dubuque's attempt to grow (establish?) a tech scene. Dubuque doesn't have enough computer science graduates to support it. I'm at the biggest "software" company in the city, and we can't find quality talent within an hour commute. As others in the thread have stated, this place was a glorified call center. No research or development going on. I have friends who still work t…
I'm at the biggest "software" company in the city, and we can't find quality talent within an hour commute. This is your company?... http://www.cartegraph.com/careers Had I stumbled upon your website on my own, I would get the distinct impression that you are presently NOT looking for any developers, since the only jobs listed are in sales. If you'd consider hiring someone to work remotely 3-4 days a week and drive i…
Areas without talent that need devs and are anti-telework deserve to be punished, imo. The 1950's ideal of everyone being in the office is antiquated and a competitive failure.
Re: Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a job once where I provisioned storage. As in, log into a filer/array (NetApps in my case), create a volume, hand it off typically to system admins that would then create a VM or use the volume for something else. That was it, my portion was mostly "create volume 500G" and sometimes a few extra configuration steps, like mirroring or setting up replication. I don't know what that IBM office was doing specificall…
Astonishing. Did you realize what your responsibilities would be when you were hired? Could only imagine having to do a full blown tech interview to find out the position was mundane and could be scripted.
To be fair, the other areas within that office were hardware related (setting up SANs, configuring and cabling them up) so had I stayed I would have learned that.
I described it like this to friends who asked: what I wanted was "The Unix/Linux System Administrators Handbook", what I got was "Chapter 8: Storage" or even just the "Disk Partitioning" subsection of Chapter 8 of that book. ;)
Re: Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dubuquer here. This was totally the City of Dubuque's attempt to grow (establish?) a tech scene. Dubuque doesn't have enough computer science graduates to support it. I'm at the biggest "software" company in the city, and we can't find quality talent within an hour commute. As others in the thread have stated, this place was a glorified call center. No research or development going on. I have friends who still work t…
> I'm at the biggest "software" company in the city, and we can't find quality talent... > the average pay at IBM was $46,000 I think I can solve your talent problem, and I won't even charge you for the insight: Pay more. Presumably you're in a high-margin (software!) industry. If revenues are reasonable, then you can afford to pay higher salaries. Given the untethered lifestyle of younger generations, you're effecti…
Re: Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
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H1B is not outsourcing. They are full time local workers by definition. It's amazing companies can get away with firing people and then hiring H1Bs, who, by the government requirements, can't take a citizen's job place.
The problem with H1B is that it is half-sourcing. Sure, they are full time local workers, but they also lack the ability to quit and stay in the USA. So they aren't truly part of the local job scene either. The system needs to be changed so that a tech worker who gets pulled over can quickly get residency and a path to citizenship. I'd also make sure that anyone graduating from an decent American university gets perm…
As long as they find a new job before they quit, they are fine. Every prospective H1B I've ever met knew this and was completely willing to jump ship if their first US-based job sucked.
Re: Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm at the biggest "software" company in the city, and we can't find quality talent within an hour commute. This is your company?... http://www.cartegraph.com/careers Had I stumbled upon your website on my own, I would get the distinct impression that you are presently NOT looking for any developers, since the only jobs listed are in sales. If you'd consider hiring someone to work remotely 3-4 days a week and drive i…
Or heaven forbid just hire me to work remotely. Why do I need to pretend I'm some local by coming in 2x a week? Areas without talent that need devs and are anti-telework deserve to be punished, imo. The 1950's ideal of everyone being in the office is antiquated and a competitive failure.
Re: Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
#57> “Four years is light years in technology,” [the local official] said. I wonder whether the journalist purposely used this as the article's final sentence to demonstrate that politicians don't "get" science/technology... or maybe relating a length of time to a distance slipped past the writer and editor(s) as well.
Re: Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you read the labor department site on H1B, "not replacing an American job" is actually not a requirement. Highly skilled, yes. But the part about the resume needing to perfectly suit just the H1B application (which, I've heard about for years, and even seen it done) actually I couldn't find it in the law. Seems like it's folk lore.
>>If you read the labor department site on H1B, "not replacing an American job" is actually not a requirement. It's an implicit requirement. In order for the H1B application to be approved, the company needs to demonstrate that American workers with equal skill were not available to fill that position. The amount of paperwork required for this process is insane. The application needs to show things like job postings…
[1] - http://www.uscis.gov/eir/visa-guide/h-1b-specialty-occupatio...
Re: Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
H1B is not outsourcing. They are full time local workers by definition. It's amazing companies can get away with firing people and then hiring H1Bs, who, by the government requirements, can't take a citizen's job place.
The problem with H1B is that it is half-sourcing. Sure, they are full time local workers, but they also lack the ability to quit and stay in the USA. So they aren't truly part of the local job scene either. The system needs to be changed so that a tech worker who gets pulled over can quickly get residency and a path to citizenship. I'd also make sure that anyone graduating from an decent American university gets perm…
What is all means is that for an abusive employer, H-1B employees are perfect. They are supposed to get paid more than the prevailing wage, but can be worked to death, and effectively deported if they won't and can't do what they're told to do.
Re: Iowa Spent $50M to Lure IBM. Then the Firings Started
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>If you read the labor department site on H1B, "not replacing an American job" is actually not a requirement. It's an implicit requirement. In order for the H1B application to be approved, the company needs to demonstrate that American workers with equal skill were not available to fill that position. The amount of paperwork required for this process is insane. The application needs to show things like job postings…
The requirement is that the alien must be paid a prevailing wage. I'm not sure what an "implicit" requirement is, but if you can find anywhere it actually says "you must try to hire an American first" I would love to see it... [1] - http://www.uscis.gov/eir/visa-guide/h-1b-specialty-occupatio...
http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/h1b.htm
Specifically:
>>H-1B dependent employers and willful violator employers must attest to the following three elements addressing non-displacement and recruitment of U.S. workers:
>>-- The employer will not displace any similarly employed U.S. worker within 90 days before or after applying for H-1B status, or an extension of status for any H-1B worker;
>>-- ...
>>-- The employer, before applying for H-1B status for any alien worker pursuant to an H-1B LCA, took good faith steps to recruit U.S. workers for the job for which the alien worker is sought, at wages at least equal to those offered to the H-1B worker. Also, the employer will offer the job to any U.S. worker who applies and is equally or better qualified than the H-1B worker. This attestation does not apply if the H-1B worker is a "priority worker" (see Section 203(b) (1) (A), (B), or (C) of the INA).