It sends every picture to a server somewhere before sending the push notification. Not sure I like that very much.
You are ridiculous
Peeple Is a Smart Peephole to Upgrade Your Door with Caller ID
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#12note: this kickstarter did launch and is on it's way to meet the minimum (50k) goal to get funded: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1544392549/peeple-calle...
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#13It sends every picture to a server somewhere before sending the push notification. Not sure I like that very much.
I'm definitely a big fan of the convenience such devices, and even the simple indoor cameras, bring, but the paranoid part of me always wonders about how easy is this for someone else to access? Not to mention being an amazing vehicle for a surveillance state - want to see all people who visited someone? No problem!
Well, even if the vendor secures the data properly, there's always third-party doctrine, so as it stands today, you may never know if government or law enforcement accesses your door logs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_doctrine
It's a little premature to complain when the service isn't built yet, but yes, a less privacy-hostile design would be nice.
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#14It sends every picture to a server somewhere before sending the push notification. Not sure I like that very much.
Well whats the other alternatives? Sending images to devices on a shared network, or having a server in your house/phone which receives the images.
All of them are quite unpractical, most people don't know how to setup a server in their home, heck most people won't know how to even forward ports (hence UPNP in CPE/SOHO routers).
Running a server on your mobile device isn't an option on all platforms, many cellular ISP's don't provide you with a "legal" internet IP but rather use NAT, and running server software on mobile phones is probably a bigger security risk than this.
And while some might say well they could've used dropbox or any other similar storage yes they could, but no one in their right mind would ever design a product which relies on a 3rd party like that since that 3rd party can (and they often do) change the TOS or scrap the service you rely on completely.
This device isn't for people who are paranoid about their security and privacy, you don't put a device which takes a picture of anyone who enters your house if you worry about privacy in the first place. This device is for people who want convenience and as long as it's cheaper than an intercom with a camera in it or is much easier to use it's fine. This is actually quite nice solution for various apartment / condo complexes, you can buz a delivery guy into the hallway when you out and about if they hook it into the buzzer.
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#15A isreali high security lock manufacturer already have the idea first. http://www.mul-t-lockusa.com/6689.html
Smart security gadgets like this are very hard to do without a distribution network of locksmith who actually does most door installations.
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#16there are trail cams that do this and more...what am i missing?
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#17It sends every picture to a server somewhere before sending the push notification. Not sure I like that very much.
Well whats the other alternatives? Sending images to devices on a shared network, or having a server in your house/phone which receives the images. All of them are quite unpractical, most people don't know how to setup a server in their home, heck most people won't know how to even forward ports (hence UPNP in CPE/SOHO routers). Running a server on your mobile device isn't an option on all platforms, many cellular IS…
a) You could use encryption; at a minimum you could render the image data opaque to the storage location. It would be much harder to protect metadata like time of access. You also lose the ability to view the data in a web application without voluntarily compromising security.
b) Perhaps sandstorm.io or owncloud integration.
I would be surprised if the company did anything like this though, it's unlikely to rise to high enough priority in their planned features list.
I agree that the set of people who worry a lot about this kind of privacy is unlikely to intersect much with the set of people who run a (closed source?) cloud integrated appliance on their door peephole, connected to a closed-source U.S. hosted web service.
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#18So if I happen to be standing inside the door when someone knocks, do I then have to run around and find my phone, because this blocks the actual peephole? If so, maybe the inside component should have a small display that powers up after a knock is detected.
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#19It sends every picture to a server somewhere before sending the push notification. Not sure I like that very much.
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#20So if I happen to be standing inside the door when someone knocks, do I then have to run around and find my phone, because this blocks the actual peephole? If so, maybe the inside component should have a small display that powers up after a knock is detected.
You could just answer the door. Sorry to be snarky to you specifically, but this comment section is weirding me out. Maybe I live a sheltered Canadian life but this seems like information overkill. When somebody knocks on your door you should just answer it and not live in a bubble. If you find yourself on the other side of a door with a knock and walk away to find your phone first... I'm worried you have retreated from the normal world into a sheltered modern depression.