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Yum is dead, long live DNF

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Re: Yum is dead, long live DNF

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Post by tw04 »

Serious question, because I am admittedly ignorant to the plusses and minuses of the different package managers.

If you're going to swap out: why not switch to apt? What does apt lack that DNF is going to provide? This seems like one of those low hanging fruit where standardization across distributions would make sense.

Re: Yum is dead, long live DNF

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Post by lloydde »

tw04 wrote: post #2

Serious question, because I am admittedly ignorant to the plusses and minuses of the different package managers. If you're going to swap out: why not switch to apt? What does apt lack that DNF is going to provide? This seems like one of those low hanging fruit where standardization across distributions would make sense.

Apt is part of a tool chain that is extreme Unix philosophy. With this we benefit from backwards compatibility and continuing to use our muscle memory, but it also means that if say you want to find out which uninstalled package provides a specific file it means installing another tool.

Re: Yum is dead, long live DNF

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Post by frg0 »

lloydde wrote: post #3
tw04 wrote: post #2

Serious question, because I am admittedly ignorant to the plusses and minuses of the different package managers. If you're going to swap out: why not switch to apt? What does apt lack that DNF is going to provide? This seems like one of those low hanging fruit where standardization across distributions would make sense.

Apt is part of a tool chain that is extreme Unix philosophy. With this we benefit from backwards compatibility and continuing to use our muscle memory, but it also means that if say you want to find out which uninstalled package provides a specific file it means installing another tool.

at some point *hat could do us all a favor and remember that we're just humans.

Re: Yum is dead, long live DNF

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Post by rwmj »

tw04 wrote: post #2

Serious question, because I am admittedly ignorant to the plusses and minuses of the different package managers. If you're going to swap out: why not switch to apt? What does apt lack that DNF is going to provide? This seems like one of those low hanging fruit where standardization across distributions would make sense.

It would have been better to switch to zypper. Both dnf and zypper use a SAT solver for very fast depsolving. Yum and apt don't and both have very slow depsolving. Zypper also directly supports rpm, and would have unified the package managers on Fedora, OpenSUSE and the enterprise Linux distros RHEL and SUSE.

Re: Yum is dead, long live DNF

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Post by stonogo »

tw04 wrote: post #2

Serious question, because I am admittedly ignorant to the plusses and minuses of the different package managers. If you're going to swap out: why not switch to apt? What does apt lack that DNF is going to provide? This seems like one of those low hanging fruit where standardization across distributions would make sense.

The lower the stakes, the stronger the feelings. C.f. text editing.

Re: Yum is dead, long live DNF

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Post by exprL »

tw04 wrote: post #2

Serious question, because I am admittedly ignorant to the plusses and minuses of the different package managers. If you're going to swap out: why not switch to apt? What does apt lack that DNF is going to provide? This seems like one of those low hanging fruit where standardization across distributions would make sense.

For a user, DNF is mostly just a quicker YUM. It still deals with RPMs and the UI is similar (at least for basic operations).
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