Mozilla's page talking about privacy has Google analytics enabled

Post by sp332 » Sat, May 16, 2015, 2:45 PM UTC

hobs wrote: post #53

sp332 wrote: post #44

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I don't get your comment (even sarcastically). It's not that big, but it's still a problem. People who are trying to avoid being tracked would probably prefer not being tracked. The page is self-defeating.

Well I do! Complaining about a moz site having google analytics is 100% bike shedding, everyone has an opinion because they have no idea how to fix or address the bigger issues, so lets complain about a website, we all know how to do that! If we cannot pick our battles, then we will just lose because of the dissipation of all of our efforts across everything "that is still a problem". When I weigh out the benefits vs…

Post by gorhill » Sat, May 16, 2015, 2:52 PM UTC

robin_reala wrote: post #38

UserRights wrote: post #10

When you open a freshly installed Firefox on Ubuntu or Windows (that is where I checked) you will have a google cookie set right before the first usage, without any chance of opting out or being asked before. Yes, anybody can change the startpage, delete all cookies and restart the browser. How many users will do this? And does forcing every user into google surveillance comply with this privacy marketing of mozilla,…

Is this due to the Safe Browsing database? http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/02/28/the-google-cookie-tha... If so then it shouldn’t be present in current versions. Did you accidentally import cookies from another browser? Probably worth filing a bug if not.

    http://clients1.google.com/ocsp
    https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/download?...

Post by vdaniuk » Sat, May 16, 2015, 3:26 PM UTC

Silhouette wrote: post #41

threeseed wrote: post #33

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This isn't the 90s. AWstats is not a solution for web analytics. Funnels, Segmentation, Retention, Path Visualisation, Event Tracking. These are basic features used by marketing teams every day. And rolling your own solution with something like Hadoop (which would need for Mozilla sized traffic) is a big undertaking.

Tools like AWStats might not be up to the job, but there are other tools that do offer these kinds of features without sending data to Google. There's no need to roll your own just to do decent analytics without using Google Analytics.

Post by Programmatic » Sat, May 16, 2015, 3:52 PM UTC

Sir_Substance wrote: post #57

sp332 wrote: post #46

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RequestPolicy and other tools like HTTPS Switchboard or even Ghostery let you block all content from certain domains, not just JS. They won't even load a tracking pixel. RP is whitelist-based and it can take some time to enable all the domains you actually use. Ghostery is blacklist-based and targets known tracking domains.

I run Ghostery as well, but I learned something new, never heard of tracking pixels. I've added RequestPolicy to my suite!

Post by kbrosnan » Sat, May 16, 2015, 4:00 PM UTC

gorhill wrote: post #63

robin_reala wrote: post #38

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Is this due to the Safe Browsing database? http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2012/02/28/the-google-cookie-tha... If so then it shouldn’t be present in current versions. Did you accidentally import cookies from another browser? Probably worth filing a bug if not.

> it shouldn’t be present in current versions This is what I see at launch[1]: http://clients1.google.com/ocsp https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/download?... [1] https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/585534/7666597/5f...