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Re: Street View, North Korea

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Post by yellowapple »

coderdude wrote: post #26
udev wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First world issues much? You've been presented with these rare images, that someone probably had to smuggle out of the country, took care to lay them on the map for your convenience, and you sit there dissatisfied with how the back button works.

Complaining about the presentation of the linked content is sort of a meme here. Just for fun: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22my%20eyes%20hurt%22&sort=by...

And for good reason. If you give something to a bunch of programmers, any programming deficiencies will be immediately and more-than-adequately addressed.

Re: Street View, North Korea

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Post by toomuchtodo »

nashashmi wrote: post #38
themeek wrote: post #11

South Korean and United States foreign policy is now reunification with North Korea, a switch from decades of "Sunshine Policy" under which relationships with NK did improve. This is contextualized by a number of current events including the rise of China and revisionism of Russia, the fight over the Arctic, America's huge losses in cyberwarfare, the US's push for an Asian NATO, and Japan's reinterpretation of their…

> We can expect to see a great deal more about North Korea, and need to hope that, as larger powers attempt to conquer NK and strip its government, that this can be done as peacefully as possible and without triggering all of the Cold War tripwires breeding in the world today. I immediately thought on reading this line of how NK is the last stranglehold where U.S. Commerce has not infiltrated. In fact, much of the ta…

> And yet so many of our soldiers have died for this very pretense.

"America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."

https://i.imgur.com/HsDHUWU.jpg

Re: Street View, North Korea

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Post by rdtsc »

On the same note, here is a surreal 22 min drive through Pyongyang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hLctBvojE

It pairs well with a few Aphex Twin songs:

Heliosphan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z4cLmbw6q0

Flim : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhHkUg-QCwk

Ageispolis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOf6ICP3WAg

It is surreal because it almost makes it possible to forget how may people that regime has starving, worked to death and tortured.

Re: Street View, North Korea

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Post by hitekker »

coderdude wrote: post #26
udev wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First world issues much? You've been presented with these rare images, that someone probably had to smuggle out of the country, took care to lay them on the map for your convenience, and you sit there dissatisfied with how the back button works.

Complaining about the presentation of the linked content is sort of a meme here. Just for fun: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22my%20eyes%20hurt%22&sort=by...

If snarkiness tends to be this predictable, I wonder what kinds of data analysis can be done just using certain recurring phrases.

Re: Street View, North Korea

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Post by crdoconnor »

RankingMember wrote: post #5
mfo wrote: post #3

I'm waiting for camp 14 street map : http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Camp-14-Remarkable-Odyssey/dp/0... This is real north korea :-)

That book was a huge eye-opener to me. It's practically a Nazi-level concentration camp situation, but because they're only doing it to their own people and one of their allies is China, the world does nothing.

"the world does nothing."

What would you have the world do? Invade like the US did to Iraq, causing a million deaths?

Re: Street View, North Korea

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Post by crdoconnor »

guard-of-terra wrote: post #14
sim9 wrote: post #9

The infrastructure is much better than India, Vietnam which happen to be massive suck ups to USA.

Ten lane roads are not infrastructure unless you have something to ride on that roads. India and Vietnam provide citizens with all kinds of bikes, tuktuks and motorollers. NK not so much. Having said that, no electricity during most of the day also not very infrastructure-ish. (If you wanted real totalitarian infrastructure, try Myanmar) Also, Vietnam fighted for their vision of freedom, won, and now is free to do wh…

>Ten lane roads are not infrastructure unless you have something to ride on that roads. India and Vietnam provide citizens with all kinds of bikes, tuktuks and motorollers. NK not so much.

The embargo makes oil very expensive in NK. Hence the costs of running a vehicle are prohibitive.

>Having said that, no electricity during most of the day

They get pretty frequent seconds-long brownouts, but they do have electricity during the day.

Re: Street View, North Korea

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Post by crdoconnor »

S4M wrote: post #13

OK, so North Korea is showing off a part of Kaeson Street, which I guess is the main avenue in Pyongyang. It looks OK, but I am pretty sure it's just the facade of the country NK wants to show to the outside; I am not sure the rest looks so nice. Also, there are almost no cars.

It's better than the rest, but even the rest of North Korea sure as hell looks a lot better than many 3rd world countries.

The western media gives an exaggerated view of the level of poverty there, partly by subtly pretending that it's still 1994.

Re: Street View, North Korea

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Post by orthecreedence »

rdtsc wrote: post #43

On the same note, here is a surreal 22 min drive through Pyongyang. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hLctBvojE It pairs well with a few Aphex Twin songs: Heliosphan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z4cLmbw6q0 Flim : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhHkUg-QCwk Ageispolis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOf6ICP3WAg It is surreal because it almost makes it possible to forget how may people that regime has starving, w…

Thanks for posting, this was eerie. I cannot imagine what it would be like to be brought up, from a small child, to unconditionally love one man and to unconditionally love everything about your country, even if you're starving.

After watching the drive, I watched this as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xs--To414I. It gives a more in-depth look, and has interviews with officials and citizens.

Some of them you can tell they are fighting to say the "right" things. I wish everyone in that country well.

Re: Street View, North Korea

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Post by jfoutz »

avodonosov wrote: post #33
listic wrote: post #27

I recognize a Soviet car: http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/-74CU7C3XYKmnkAtpVwiQA and http://mapillary.com/map/im/StWpR2MuX2z3Xhd1LWd9QQ , that's a 1979+ ВАЗ-2105 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%90%D0%97-2105 It looks (and is) dated, but actually was produced until recently and a common sight in Russia. I wonder how they get there.

I wonder more now non Soviet cars get there

Well, the volvos are pretty easy to explain. http://jalopnik.com/north-korea-still-owes-393-000-000-for-v...
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