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South Korean and United States foreign policy is now reunification with North Korea, a switch from decades of "Sunshine Policy" under which relationships with NK did improve.

This is contextualized by a number of current events including the rise of China and revisionism of Russia, the fight over the Arctic, America's huge losses in cyberwarfare, the US's push for an Asian NATO, and Japan's reinterpretation of their Constitution to allow for anticipatory military strikes (even on behalf of allies) - basically the US's Pivot to Asia.

Policy and strategy thinktanks are discussing with NGOs and CSOs how to develop insurgencies in NK and how to inform and convince the youth and unengaged in SK to care about reunification. The US and international allies plan to target specific people (guards, officials) on human rights violations, rather than engaging the country diplomatically, in the hopes that an international criminal court approach can get officials and government employees to resist or be reluctant to take orders from higher up the chain. The US will be discussing the evolution of NK with Russia, who they believe will now be assisting NK at a faster clip with missile development.

An interesting note here is that every year has seen increasing activities from the US inside of NK. This past year CIA and State Department involvement in the development of The Interview (as leaked by the SONY emails, both by the SONY hackers #GOP and by Wikileaks) reveal how tensions are building between the countries, and how cyberwarfare is a highly asymmetric type of warfare.

We can expect to see a great deal more about North Korea, and need to hope that, as larger powers attempt to conquer NK and strip its government, that this can be done as peacefully as possible and without triggering all of the Cold War tripwires breeding in the world today.

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That book was a huge eye-opener to me. It's practically a Nazi-level concentration camp situation, but because they're only doing it to their own people and one of their allies is China, the world does nothing.

no, because they have a shit ton of artillery aimed at Seoul, tunnels under the dmz that can be packed with explosives, possibly nukes (which even if fizzlers could do a lot of damage)... and China. there are in the perfect situation to do evil and get away with it. Even funding a insurgency would be difficult. the population is so downtrodden they must have forgotten what freedom is (think 1984). the penalty for dis…

Your entire family to the 8th or 9th generation.

Re: Street View, North Korea

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OK, so North Korea is showing off a part of Kaeson Street, which I guess is the main avenue in Pyongyang. It looks OK, but I am pretty sure it's just the facade of the country NK wants to show to the outside; I am not sure the rest looks so nice. Also, there are almost no cars.

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The infrastructure is much better than India, Vietnam which happen to be massive suck ups to USA.

Ten lane roads are not infrastructure unless you have something to ride on that roads. India and Vietnam provide citizens with all kinds of bikes, tuktuks and motorollers. NK not so much.

Having said that, no electricity during most of the day also not very infrastructure-ish.

(If you wanted real totalitarian infrastructure, try Myanmar)

Also, Vietnam fighted for their vision of freedom, won, and now is free to do whatever pleases.

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The infrastructure is much better than India, Vietnam which happen to be massive suck ups to USA.

Ten lane roads are not infrastructure unless you have something to ride on that roads. India and Vietnam provide citizens with all kinds of bikes, tuktuks and motorollers. NK not so much. Having said that, no electricity during most of the day also not very infrastructure-ish. (If you wanted real totalitarian infrastructure, try Myanmar) Also, Vietnam fighted for their vision of freedom, won, and now is free to do wh…

You dont see many cars I guese because the population is low, even on the streets there are less number of people. By the way the cleanliness and stable roads are much better than India and Vietname and even some US cities. I dont agree with your electricity outage comment since you provided no proof of that.

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This site's usage of browser is ridiculous. Every time you move forward or backwards it adds another history entry, making your back button pretty much useless. If they want to provide deep linking to a particular map location they should change the URL without writing to the history.

Browsing on Safari like I never do, I thought it was a weird bug. Thanks for my sanity.

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Ten lane roads are not infrastructure unless you have something to ride on that roads. India and Vietnam provide citizens with all kinds of bikes, tuktuks and motorollers. NK not so much. Having said that, no electricity during most of the day also not very infrastructure-ish. (If you wanted real totalitarian infrastructure, try Myanmar) Also, Vietnam fighted for their vision of freedom, won, and now is free to do wh…

You dont see many cars I guese because the population is low, even on the streets there are less number of people. By the way the cleanliness and stable roads are much better than India and Vietname and even some US cities. I dont agree with your electricity outage comment since you provided no proof of that.

You're taking one tiny stretch of (empty) road as evidence of the quality of infrastructure across the entire country.

India has 2.53 million kilometers of paved road. Vietnam has 148,000 km. The CIA's 2006 estimate for North Korea was 724 kilometers.

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Ten lane roads are not infrastructure unless you have something to ride on that roads. India and Vietnam provide citizens with all kinds of bikes, tuktuks and motorollers. NK not so much. Having said that, no electricity during most of the day also not very infrastructure-ish. (If you wanted real totalitarian infrastructure, try Myanmar) Also, Vietnam fighted for their vision of freedom, won, and now is free to do wh…

You dont see many cars I guese because the population is low, even on the streets there are less number of people. By the way the cleanliness and stable roads are much better than India and Vietname and even some US cities. I dont agree with your electricity outage comment since you provided no proof of that.

yeah thats cause India in 1000x larger than NK. please use some logic.

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"The world does nothing" The world would have watched Hitler in peace too, had he not decided to blast through Belgium into Paris. After that the world watched China end the lives of tens of millions (as many as, or more than the entire NK population) during the Cultural Revolution. The world watches as Boko Haram and countless other organizations murder and rape their way across Africa. The world watches as Qatar pu…

ohh wow, I never knew the US was such a holy nation. Also the world just watches when it drops nuclear bombs on other countries.

Nowhere did GP imply anything like this.
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