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Introducing Windows 10 Editions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't downvote you. I also don't see how that citation does anything but reinforce the original point -- Dell is buying Windows from Microsoft and reselling it. It's not even a retail product situation, like Best Buy -- Dell isn't selling Windows, it's selling computers that come with Windows. You can't buy the computer at your link without Windows, and you can't buy Windows without the computer through Dell.

Resellers are a specific economic niche. From a customer perspective CostCo and BestBuy are both just stores. However, BestBuy regularly returns unsold inventory to their suppliers where CostCo generally just has to keep lowering their prices or eat the costs. Dell does not take unsold inventory risks with Windows so it's simply not their business model. Plenty of small PC manufactures do take this risk by buying win…

Dell is an OEM. How they chose to package their product is their business. More importantly their direct-to-consumer sales are a drop in the bucket. They use resellers too. When you go to Best Buy, nobody chooses their windows. The smiley guy shows you a few laptops based on what he thinks is best for you and you chose the one who looks the best. There are very specific rules about which windows versions go in which models and there are very specific rules about rebates. The rebates dictate what is getting sold to whom. It is such a sophisticated operation, with so much analysis behind it, that people generally don't understand it at all. I tried to hint that if you make such statements, you might not be qualified to talk about it, but apparently you are not willing to entertain this possibility at all. You think you are understand supply and demand better than the collective of thousands of people who run analysis that makes up this strategy, because you read article on a blog... Nothing more to add.

Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions

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post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Resellers are a specific economic niche. From a customer perspective CostCo and BestBuy are both just stores. However, BestBuy regularly returns unsold inventory to their suppliers where CostCo generally just has to keep lowering their prices or eat the costs. Dell does not take unsold inventory risks with Windows so it's simply not their business model. Plenty of small PC manufactures do take this risk by buying win…

Dell is an OEM. How they chose to package their product is their business. More importantly their direct-to-consumer sales are a drop in the bucket. They use resellers too. When you go to Best Buy, nobody chooses their windows. The smiley guy shows you a few laptops based on what he thinks is best for you and you chose the one who looks the best. There are very specific rules about which windows versions go in which…

OEM != Reseller

Most stores != Reseller

Best buy is a store you can buy a prepackaged dell from. But, they are not a Dell reseller.

Again, Reseller is a term based around two sales for the same item which has specific legal meanings.

PS: Book stores are a classic example where they will destroy unsold inventory and ship the covers back. Clearly, if the book store had already purchased the book doing this would not result in a check from the publisher.

Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions

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post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dell is an OEM. How they chose to package their product is their business. More importantly their direct-to-consumer sales are a drop in the bucket. They use resellers too. When you go to Best Buy, nobody chooses their windows. The smiley guy shows you a few laptops based on what he thinks is best for you and you chose the one who looks the best. There are very specific rules about which windows versions go in which…

OEM != Reseller Most stores != Reseller Best buy is a store you can buy a prepackaged dell from. But, they are not a Dell reseller. Again, Reseller is a term based around two sales for the same item which has specific legal meanings. PS: Book stores are a classic example where they will destroy unsold inventory and ship the covers back. Clearly, if the book store had already purchased the book doing this would not re…

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Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions

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No mention of Windows 10 IoT? Is it still going to live in some weird licensing limbo zone where it's only for preview and not for normal people to buy and use? edit: Oh geeze I missed it, it's appparently part of 'Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise'... seriously?

No, I think you misinterpreted it.

> There will also be versions of Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 Mobile Enterprise for industry devices like ATMs, retail point of sale, handheld terminals and industrial robotics

conversational pause

> and Windows 10 IoT Core for small footprint, low cost devices like gateways.

Re: Introducing Windows 10 Editions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the same vein... Windows Vista hadn't changed significantly since XP, or XP since 2000, or 2000 since NT 3.5.1, etc. It's all iterative and subject to perspective here.

2003 -> Vista was the big change. All others were minor by comparison. Plus we were talking about the deployment/upgrade technology.

But how "big" those changes are, is pretty subjective unless you're talking a pretty narrow context... the UI changed significantly in any number of areas between releases... if you have to access those a lot, that change is huge... to you. Frankly, I don't find any of them too different from each prior version... over time they're more significant.
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