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8^8 – Find another you

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Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by Nadya »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #24
egwynn wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even then, it’s all the more important to find the questions with the highest entropy, given that you know someone’s already in a popular group. It’s all about evenly dividing the population based on important factors. Evenly dividing people is easy enough, and finding important factors is easy enough, but doing them both at the same time can be very tricky.

> Even then, it’s all the more important to find the questions with the highest entropy Also see http://www.gwern.net/Death%20Note%20Anonymity for a discussion of information theory in identifying people.

That was an interesting read - though I skipped after the "game is over part". I'll have to go back and read the rest later for "what he should have done."

As an aside, I'm now worried about serial killers trained in using information theory to prevent themselves from being caught. Although not having a supernatural Death Note makes that a lot more difficult.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by ordinary »

braaap wrote: post #10

Ummm, I like other people precisely because they aren't me. My soulmate is not a duplicate of me. They are a compliment. At best, 8^8 might expose someone who ends up making a lot of the same decisions as me. Boring!

Nitpick: you mean complement. I'm going to go ahead and assume your soulmate isn't "your hair looks nice today!" :)

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by temuze »

aidenn0 wrote: post #27
gattis wrote: post #12

"Take the 8^8 test and the likelihood of someone else answering in the exact same pattern as yourself is 1 in 16,777,216" That requires A) the distribution of answers is even across all 8 options, and B) there are zero correlations between any two answers in the quiz. Not to mention that the 8 questions have to pretty accurately split the space of human personalities down into eigen-answers that explain the most vari…

Simple stupid example. A lot more than 1/5 of the people would choose A for the following question: How many people have you killed? a) 0 b) 1-9 c) 10-99 d) 100-999 e) 1000 or more

Or, for the second problem or correlations:

Do you have a Y chromosome? a) Yes b) No

Do you have two X chromosomes: a) Yes b) No

Each are 50-50 questions, but the answer to A is correlated to the answer to B.

It's hard to find questions whose answers are independent variables.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by iyn »

I love the idea! The "non-optimal" (location & time based) way of finding the people you spend your time with can be quite frustrating, if you think about it. I'm happy to have a great people around me, but why not meet more interesting people?

But, as others already pointed out, there are some problems with the current version:

* one could prefer multiple answers on some questions. I think that the test should allow for multiple answers and use ML/statistics to find close/closest matches. Using True/False (exact match) may not be the best. The "workaroud" would be to take several tests with all the permutations, but IMO that is a design flaw.

* the questions may not be the best. This is an interesting problem - how can we pick questions/attributes that would be a good "model" of human personality/mind/psychology?

* such test need to reach a lot of people and it may take a long time. Therefore, it needs to be done _right_ from the beginning, so that all the people take the same test.

Again - I love the concept and I'm glad that somebody it taking the time and effort to build this. IMO this has the potential to influence who you spend your time/life with - so it's very important to do this well.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by oh_sigh »

flurpitude wrote: post #8

9,945 people have taken the test according to the stats at the bottom, and the site's painfully slow. Definitely needs some performance tweaking.

Presumably many more people are taking the test. They should have just hosted this on whatever google sheets does with questionnaires. It seems a bit silly to want millions of people to take your quiz, but not have the resources available to serve it.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by azinman2 »

hvm wrote: post #19

Yeah, the site is painfully slow. A site with a multiple choice test should handle thousands of users at a time with a tiny server. How is this thing made?

Seriously. I mean maybe not 1000 request/sec but at least 50/sec, which will get you pretty far (3k/ppl/min).

And they at the bottom say 11k matches so far... too bad I like the premise!

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by iyn »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #23
Nadya wrote: post #5

Took quite a while due to the site crashing several times, but I finished it. I think of it as an interesting experiment - even if nothing ends up coming from it. My largest concern is there are about 3 questions where I was torn between two answers. I'm thinking I should create email addresses to "cover every base" by alternating my answers on those 3 questions in every permutation. On the other hand, I would feel a…

> On the other hand, I would feel a bit bad for using up some of the "freebies" that legitimate people might miss out on I wonder what the legality of publishing their questions and answers are. If we can duplicate their questions and answers, people could find each other on twitter with a hashtag: #my8x8is{answer 1}{answer 2}...{answer 2}

I like your idea about the hashtag. I don't think that the definitive answers are the best approach (I'd prefer multiple answers), but it'd interesting if we were able to design a "format" that could be used to describe one's answers.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by Nadya »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #23
Nadya wrote: post #5

Took quite a while due to the site crashing several times, but I finished it. I think of it as an interesting experiment - even if nothing ends up coming from it. My largest concern is there are about 3 questions where I was torn between two answers. I'm thinking I should create email addresses to "cover every base" by alternating my answers on those 3 questions in every permutation. On the other hand, I would feel a…

> On the other hand, I would feel a bit bad for using up some of the "freebies" that legitimate people might miss out on I wonder what the legality of publishing their questions and answers are. If we can duplicate their questions and answers, people could find each other on twitter with a hashtag: #my8x8is{answer 1}{answer 2}...{answer 2}

What would this accomplish, other than perhaps not giving their email to 8x8?

If they have taken the 8x8 test to know their answers, they may as well enter an email address to be alerted when they have a match. Rather than checking Twitter, seeing as 8x8 already plans to email you if you have a match.

In theory if two Twitter users took the test and were a match - there would be no need to use a hashtag to tweet.

This could be useful if enough people participated and were interested in finding an "8x7" or even "8x6" match by changing their answer of two questions. But even then, you would need enough participants who use Twitter and are willing to tweet their answers.

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