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I think making net access a human right is ridiculous. What next? Criminals asserting their human legal rights to have 1MB net connection installed in their cells.
It's not much different these days than giving them the right to send and receive mail, I don't see why you think it's so silly.
At some point we'll get the human right to "not be in a cell". And then where will we be?
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Suppose you called your site say "hacker news" and some local councilor decided that "hacker" was offensive - under this law they can simply delete your domain registration.
Then you'd post about it on twitter+reddit and the whole baying mob of sheep that compose the modern internet would track down said councilor and make their life a living hell forever.
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It's not much different these days than giving them the right to send and receive mail, I don't see why you think it's so silly.
Because it negates the whole point you put them in prison. At some point we'll get the human right to "not be in a cell". And then where will we be?
So you think that being in prison would be perfectly pleasant just as long as you had a broadband connection? Some life you must lead.
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sigh I'm happy for you that you have more freedom to drink beer. May I kindly suggest that, when exercising that freedom, you try and avoid nationalistic flame wars? This is Hacker News.
Why are you taking the parent to task for this rather than the OP?
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Why are you taking the parent to task for this rather than the OP?
It's a fair question. To me, it's a positive thing to criticize the decline of civil liberties in one country, but a negative thing to respond to that criticism with a "at least we're better than another country" flame. It's not productive at all to play the "my country is less bad than yours" game.
The OP's comment was clearly a flame of precisely that sort. It wasn't making any constructive commentary on civil liberties issues, just asking a dumb and inflammatory rhetorical question.
I suggest that the only reason you find the OP less offensive than the reply is that you're American and not British. If our internet laws are fair game for criticism, I think your (crazy) alcohol laws and health system must be too :)
Also, what makes you so sure that civil liberties have been "declining" in the UK? There have been steps forward as well as steps back, I don't see any justification for overall pessimism.
do people have any more freedoms left in UK?
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Because it negates the whole point you put them in prison. At some point we'll get the human right to "not be in a cell". And then where will we be?
>Because it negates the whole point you put them in prison. So you think that being in prison would be perfectly pleasant just as long as you had a broadband connection? Some life you must lead.
There was also some call (Probably from EU) to give criminals in jail the right to a vote. Which I also strongly disagree with.
They're in there to separate them from society. And that includes 'online' society IMHO - hence they should not have net connections.
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It's a fair question. To me, it's a positive thing to criticize the decline of civil liberties in one country, but a negative thing to respond to that criticism with a "at least we're better than another country" flame. It's not productive at all to play the "my country is less bad than yours" game.
> It's a fair question. To me, it's a positive thing to criticize the decline of civil liberties in one country, but a negative thing to respond to that criticism with a "at least we're better than another country" flame. The OP's comment was clearly a flame of precisely that sort. It wasn't making any constructive commentary on civil liberties issues, just asking a dumb and inflammatory rhetorical question. I sugges…
The OP wasn't a good comment either, but the response was even worse, which is another way of saying "internet flamewars escalate".