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The male suicides: how social perfectionism kills

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Re: The male suicides: how social perfectionism kills

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I think some people need proper perspective on life. We are all actors playing out silly games of ambition. Achievement is really no different than a life of non-achievement, although your human instincts tell you otherwise. Also there is no such thing as being perfect unless perhaps you are a strong artificial intelligence that is a million times smarter than humans.

Re: The male suicides: how social perfectionism kills

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post #4

I think some people need proper perspective on life. We are all actors playing out silly games of ambition. Achievement is really no different than a life of non-achievement, although your human instincts tell you otherwise. Also there is no such thing as being perfect unless perhaps you are a strong artificial intelligence that is a million times smarter than humans.

And taking your own life isn't such a big deal if it's all just a game.

Achievements or none; they won't matter to you when you're in the ground.

Re: The male suicides: how social perfectionism kills

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I think this article puts the euphemism 'social perfectionism' on the subtle, and in some cases blatant anti-male stance that pervades US and UK society today.

Sports teams fall over themselves to wear pink for Mother's Day, hardly anyone celebrates Father's Day. [1] Time Magazine publishes an article on how "Men are Obsolete". [2] Politicians routinely trumpet the 77% pay gap despite it being "more complicated than that" at best, and false at worst. [3] Fathers are routinely mocked and disparaged in TV commercials, and shown as the bumbling idiot. [4] A Columbia student has gained national acclaim after doing a "art performance" accusing a fellow student of rape [5] while he (despite having been cleared by the University) is still a pariah. [6] Meanwhile, a female teacher in California who had sex with her 14-year old male student gets only two years in prison (note that the article doesn't ever say "rape", even though it is statutory rape).[7]

Given these, is it any surprise that the average man who is mocked by society thinks of committing suicide after his wife commits infidelity multiple times, and then gets the house through no-fault divorce laws? This has nothing to do with so-called perfectionism.

To be fair, the article covers this in one succinct sentence in the middle, which is, "In the UK and other Western societies, it sometimes feels as if we collectively decided, at some point around the mid-1980s, that men are awful." -- which I think is a far more accurate statement.

[1] http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/granderson-met-ya...

[2] http://time.com/179/men-are-obsolete/

[3] http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/08/gende...

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGCTFjFiNu4

[5] http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/29...

[6] http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/03/columbia-st...

[7] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/07/amy-beck-gets-2-yea...

Re: The male suicides: how social perfectionism kills

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A few years ago I was eating dinner and watching the local 6PM TV news broadcast. The lead story: "Friends and family mourn the tragic death of a young woman who killed herself..." Half an hour later: "A young man has become the latest statistic in a string of suicides..."

I don't know if it was deliberate, but it definitely brought to mind the quote attributed (most likely incorrectly) to Stalin concerning deaths, tragedies, and statistics.

Re: The male suicides: how social perfectionism kills

#10
The demonization of all things male has had a pernicious effect on boys and men over the last 20 years. I've seen it negatively impact friends and, worse, my own boys. Oone of the best things I ever did was cut the live TV feed and the commercials that only show men as drunken idiots, drunken leches, or bumbling idiots (notice: drunken and idiots is a repeating theme).

As a society, we need to come to terms with masculinity. That means men need to be able to be masculine without being domineering and without being castigated.

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