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Mozilla Launches a New Firefox Version Without DRM Support

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Re: Mozilla Launches a New Firefox Version Without DRM Support

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Post by hoopd »

angersock wrote: post #19

Yeah, but at least we managed to get that hateful bigot out of the company! That's important, right? More seriously, we really do have a problem, but it looks like the users just don't want to be free.

You know, I'm sick of people making such a big deal just becasue Mozilla lost its CEO in such an awful way that he didn't even return to his CTO role. Just because he literally wrote JavaScript, co-founded Mozilla and worked on Firefox since it was called Netscape Navigator it doesn't mean he should be able to take part in America's political process in a way that some find offensive.

Re: Mozilla Launches a New Firefox Version Without DRM Support

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Post by Karunamon »

hoopd wrote: post #31
angersock wrote: post #19

Yeah, but at least we managed to get that hateful bigot out of the company! That's important, right? More seriously, we really do have a problem, but it looks like the users just don't want to be free.

You know, I'm sick of people making such a big deal just becasue Mozilla lost its CEO in such an awful way that he didn't even return to his CTO role. Just because he literally wrote JavaScript, co-founded Mozilla and worked on Firefox since it was called Netscape Navigator it doesn't mean he should be able to take part in America's political process in a way that some find offensive.

*most find offensive.

It is possible for someone to be a brilliant technologist and an otherwise awful person. And before someone takes me to task for the words "awful person" - sorry, that's my evaluation of someone who'd rather lose their job than say sorry for the prejudice.

Re: Mozilla Launches a New Firefox Version Without DRM Support

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

therealfoxy wrote: post #24
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but it looks like the users just don't want to be free. The users don't care. I have never been able to convince a layperson why DRM should matter at all to them, have you?.

Yep - when they asked why the online service that they bought DRM ridden content from closed, and now their purchases were lost (they were asking what to do/how to do it).

That is a really good argument, but doesn't apply to streaming.

Re: Mozilla Launches a New Firefox Version Without DRM Support

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Post by brandmeyer »

cabalamat wrote: post #30
tehbeard wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And here I am heading towards Firefox from Chrome specifically because I can't watch DRM content in Chrome anymore (need silverlight to be able to watch GoT and Comedy central)

> need silverlight to be able to watch GoT No you don't. I've watched every episode of GoT, without having Silverlight installed (Does it even run on Linux? I've no idea).

I actually do have Netflix running via Silverlight on Firefox on Linux. Winodws Silverlight is running in Wine, with Pipelight to display the Windows plugin in the Linux Firefox (actually Iceweasel) process.

Its emulators all the way down!

Re: Mozilla Launches a New Firefox Version Without DRM Support

#37

Post by DCKing »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #18

And here is the end result of people leaving Firefox for Chrome. You neutered Mozilla. There is no longer a browser vendor which has both your interests in heart and sufficient power to direct the evolution of the web. Who now gets to choose which features are built into the majority of desktop and mobile browsers? Advertising companies.

Come on. This is the same Mozilla that promoted installing Adobe Flash for internet video since its very inception. If you're really such a purist, they should have been your enemy all along.

Nothing has changed, and the conclusion is nowhere near as dramatic as you're making it sound. The suggestion that Mozilla implemented this for market share reasons is also incredibly unsubstantiated and ignores the very obvious practical reasons they will have had: dropping reliance on large propietary application runtimes (the DRM module is much smaller and has less functionality), improving user experience, and the fact that it's an actual web standard (albeit the most controversial one).

Re: Mozilla Launches a New Firefox Version Without DRM Support

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Post by bobajeff »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #18

And here is the end result of people leaving Firefox for Chrome. You neutered Mozilla. There is no longer a browser vendor which has both your interests in heart and sufficient power to direct the evolution of the web. Who now gets to choose which features are built into the majority of desktop and mobile browsers? Advertising companies.

I left Internet Explorer for Firefox because I was unsatisfied and jumped to the first viable alternative. I left Firefox for Chrome for the same reason. I'll jump to the next viable alternative as soon as it's available.

Re: Mozilla Launches a New Firefox Version Without DRM Support

#39

Post by eps »

Karunamon wrote: post #32
hoopd wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, I'm sick of people making such a big deal just becasue Mozilla lost its CEO in such an awful way that he didn't even return to his CTO role. Just because he literally wrote JavaScript, co-founded Mozilla and worked on Firefox since it was called Netscape Navigator it doesn't mean he should be able to take part in America's political process in a way that some find offensive.

*most find offensive. It is possible for someone to be a brilliant technologist and an otherwise awful person. And before someone takes me to task for the words "awful person" - sorry, that's my evaluation of someone who'd rather lose their job than say sorry for the prejudice.

*some.

Being vocal/hysterical about something doesn't imply it's a dominant opinion.

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