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Re: Lily – Drone camera

#171

This is really, really cool. That said, flying objects are inherently dangerous. I was at a bike race and a guy was following the pack with a DJI drone. One motor suddenly failed and the thing plummeted to the ground from 40ft and broke into a bunch of pieces. Luckily, it didn't hit anyone but it would have been a major incident if it had. There's a lot of excitement about the cool, flashy features of these drones (f…

Use drones with more than 4 rotors.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

#172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drones of this size are cheap enough that the extra weight and cost of engineering of safety devices generally isn't worth it. It's easier to fix or replace parts.

Are you factoring in your personal liability for killing someone in that equation? The comment that mentioned parachutes was talking about how a drone crashed at an event and almost injured people. My personal homeowners liability policy covers things like hitting someone with a shopping cart in the grocery store and hurting them, it probably would also cover a drone, but if you don't have insurance it could expensiv…

Notice I said "drones of this size". While the propellers could still cause some damage, these kind of things aren't going to kill anybody, so let's not be overdramatic. As for potential dangers to other people, the solution to that is not a technical one, it is simply to not fly over or near to people. Just like we don't drive our cars on the sidewalk.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

#173
post #35

Video made me want to have a more active life. I thought "cool!" but then I imagined my video output would be hours of me typing, browsing HN & Reddit.

Sad realizations are the best inspiration.

But really, working in internet tech, there's no excuse not to get out more often. Internet connections are everywhere and portable computing is absolutely viable.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

#174
When I first saw, it reminded me of the 1997 Flubber house robot. For its size, Lily takes just video. It would be good if there is some more smartness and can be used indoors. Just like the house robot.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

#175

This is really, really cool. That said, flying objects are inherently dangerous. I was at a bike race and a guy was following the pack with a DJI drone. One motor suddenly failed and the thing plummeted to the ground from 40ft and broke into a bunch of pieces. Luckily, it didn't hit anyone but it would have been a major incident if it had. There's a lot of excitement about the cool, flashy features of these drones (f…

Use drones with more than 4 rotors.

Exactly. If you are flying over people AT ALL you should be using an octocopter at least.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

#176
post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if a heavier-than-air airship design would be safer. A balloon with helium or even hydrogen would let such a device fall slowly with engines off, and motors would let it fly up and maneuver around swiftly enough.

Safer maybe, but nowhere near as swift and agile as a multirotor, and much more susceptible to wind.

Why, it can still be multi-rotor, and even capable of bigger payload with the same battery.

The air drag from the balloon will be an issue. OTOH the motors could be run at low power when cruising and at high power when speedy maneuvers are required.

The size will definitely be bigger. But if we talk about professional-grade drones (for video reporting, etc), they are large and expensive as they are. Improved safety and thus easier time getting allowed in to a worthy event might be more important than a lean package.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

#177
I've been designing, building and flying model airplanes and later helicopters since I was ten years old. I've always flown in the context of a registered flying club and carry one million dollars insurance for my activity.

I continue to be horrified by what is happening with these multicopters. People fly them outside of controlled environments and with a total lack of consideration towards others or their property.

The vast majority of these things are cheap hobby-grade toys with laughable "safety" features. I own RC helicopters costing in excess of $3,000 and use a radio that costs well over $1,000. I still consider them dangerous toys not to be flown outside of club controlled environments.

What sucks is this morons are going to kill somebody and this will ruin the hobby for those of us who have been responsible flyers for decades.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

#178
post #139

It's impressive, no doubt, but I wonder about the actual utility of the device. My main concerned is the 20m battery life/record time - that is pretty limiting. If I were to use this to record myself snowboarding (like the video shows), that would be a problem. Here in Colorado a typical blue rated mountain run is easily 20m from top to bottom, esp. if you aren't gunning it the whole way. When I ride alone I can mayb…

Multicopters have this time limitation in general. They don't have great flight times due to the power density of the batteries. It's the main limiter of the platforms really.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

#179
post #161
post #139

It's impressive, no doubt, but I wonder about the actual utility of the device. My main concerned is the 20m battery life/record time - that is pretty limiting. If I were to use this to record myself snowboarding (like the video shows), that would be a problem. Here in Colorado a typical blue rated mountain run is easily 20m from top to bottom, esp. if you aren't gunning it the whole way. When I ride alone I can mayb…

There is a tripod that automatically tracks you. I get ads for it on YouTube all the time. http://www.gizmag.com/soloshot-automated-tripod/25453/

Thanks, that's an awesome product, never seen this before! Very cool.

More info here: http://shop.soloshot.com/

Re: Lily – Drone camera

#180
post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does it need to be high quality? Mom and dad aren't exactly pro photographers and they still enjoy taking pictures. Just look at the design of the thing, it's clearly more for play than work.

Mom and dad probably aren't into extreme sports or spending $500 on toys either, though. Which is why I think in a lot of these new drone ideas are disconnected from their target audience.

What? Parents have been buying GoPros as Christmas presents for their kids to film their skiing down a blue square run at Stratton in droves. The last time I was at a resort like that it seemed like every other 13 year old kid had a video camera to capture their day.

I don't want to see the drones flying at the mountain when I ski, but the blocker is definitely not lack of parents with money willing to blow it on stupid toys for their kids.

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