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Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by robin_reala » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:22 PM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #9

> Ruby annotation support Finally! After only 24 years, East Asian languages get some attention. Perhaps next Western browser makers might consider vertical text support. sigh

Vertical text support is coming on quickly in Firefox. There’s still a bunch of blockers, but they’re being knocked off fast: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145503

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by k-mcgrady » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:23 PM UTC

portaljacker wrote: post #17

Touche wrote: post #7

> Mac OS X: Implemented a subset of the Media Source Extensions (MSE) API to allow native HTML5 playback on YouTube HTML5 > Implemented Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) API to support encrypted HTML5 video/audio playback (Windows Vista or later only) HTML5 > Automatically download Adobe Primetime Content Decryption Module (CDM) for DRM playback through EME (Windows Vista or later only) :( Notice which OSes are left o…

Does EME being implemented finally mean that I can uninstall Silverlight for watching Netflix in Firefox in the near future?

Don't do it. I've been using the non-silverlight Netflix in Safari and it's such a nightmare I switched back. Constantly fails to load content.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:23 PM UTC

robin_reala wrote: post #21

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #9

> Ruby annotation support Finally! After only 24 years, East Asian languages get some attention. Perhaps next Western browser makers might consider vertical text support. sigh

Vertical text support is coming on quickly in Firefox. There’s still a bunch of blockers, but they’re being knocked off fast: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145503

That's great to see!

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by bad_user » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:24 PM UTC

acdha wrote: post #13

Touche wrote: post #7

> Mac OS X: Implemented a subset of the Media Source Extensions (MSE) API to allow native HTML5 playback on YouTube HTML5 > Implemented Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) API to support encrypted HTML5 video/audio playback (Windows Vista or later only) HTML5 > Automatically download Adobe Primetime Content Decryption Module (CDM) for DRM playback through EME (Windows Vista or later only) :( Notice which OSes are left o…

What video could you watch before that you cannot watch now? I also wish we lived in a world which didn't need EME but it's not like the status quo was video which played for everyone. It just meant that everyone had to download monthly updates to avoid security problems with the massive plugin they used to play video and Linux, etc. users were largely still screwed.

There's a big difference - before these moves, DRM delivery of video had to be done using shitty nonstandard plugins or native apps, right?

Whenever this happens, usability suffers as well. And we had a real opportunity here to give users an open and non-broken standard as an alternative, on top of which alternative platforms for content delivery could be built, alternatives that could have won simply because of the ubiquitousness of the standard browser.

Besides, DRM is technically and fundamentally broken. All my respect for W3C has gone down the window.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by wmf » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:24 PM UTC

mwfunk wrote: post #20

Touche wrote: post #7

> Mac OS X: Implemented a subset of the Media Source Extensions (MSE) API to allow native HTML5 playback on YouTube HTML5 > Implemented Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) API to support encrypted HTML5 video/audio playback (Windows Vista or later only) HTML5 > Automatically download Adobe Primetime Content Decryption Module (CDM) for DRM playback through EME (Windows Vista or later only) :( Notice which OSes are left o…

I'm not sure how this is any different from following the ongoing development of any other feature that requires platform-specific code to be written (WebGL, etc.). You will periodically see updates that only pertain to one platform or another, especially during bringup. No conspiracy there.

Mozilla can implement/port WebGL for whatever platforms they want, but they can't implement Adobe Primetime DRM; they have to take whatever Adobe gives them.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by javaun » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:25 PM UTC

Touche wrote: post #7

> Mac OS X: Implemented a subset of the Media Source Extensions (MSE) API to allow native HTML5 playback on YouTube HTML5 > Implemented Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) API to support encrypted HTML5 video/audio playback (Windows Vista or later only) HTML5 > Automatically download Adobe Primetime Content Decryption Module (CDM) for DRM playback through EME (Windows Vista or later only) :( Notice which OSes are left o…

Hey Touche, I work on Firefox at Mozilla. We launched EME on Win32 (Vista+) first because that is by far the biggest share of Fx users. We will keep rolling out new platforms, the work will be long and hard. Streaming providers want to move off of Silverlight and Flash but will still support them for the foreseeable future, so content is still available.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by joshmoz » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:27 PM UTC

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #12

> CRITICAL Vulnerability can be used to run attacker code and install software, requiring no user interaction beyond normal browsing. Uh, glad they fixed this one, but it sounds pretty bad. I'd kinda like to see the actual CVE/bug report.

You're looking at the key which defines what CRITICAL means. Look further down the page for info about actual vulns. I believe they're running a bit late posting the vulns for 38 today.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:28 PM UTC

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #12

> CRITICAL Vulnerability can be used to run attacker code and install software, requiring no user interaction beyond normal browsing. Uh, glad they fixed this one, but it sounds pretty bad. I'd kinda like to see the actual CVE/bug report.

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Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by Alphasite_ » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:28 PM UTC

k-mcgrady wrote: post #22

portaljacker wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does EME being implemented finally mean that I can uninstall Silverlight for watching Netflix in Firefox in the near future?

Don't do it. I've been using the non-silverlight Netflix in Safari and it's such a nightmare I switched back. Constantly fails to load content.

Really? I had some issues with the very first release of HTML5 Netflix, but it is pretty solid now.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by selectodude » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:30 PM UTC

k-mcgrady wrote: post #22

portaljacker wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does EME being implemented finally mean that I can uninstall Silverlight for watching Netflix in Firefox in the near future?

Don't do it. I've been using the non-silverlight Netflix in Safari and it's such a nightmare I switched back. Constantly fails to load content.

I wonder why you have issues and I don't. The only new thing I've noticed with Netflix on HTML5 is my battery life has near-doubled.