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“I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

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Re: “I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

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Insurance. You're betting technology will come far enough to build you a replacement body. You have nothing to lose because your other option is irreversible death.

Nothing to lose except the money you're spending on an icebox that you could've spent bettering the world you're leaving.

That presumes that one couldn't see the funding of cryonics organizations as itself a social good, aside from whatever small chance of self-preservation it comes with.

Re: “I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

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You don't need to be rich. It costs very little to fund a $30k life insurance policy, which will get your whole body suspended with Cryonics Institute. Alcor is more, $80k for just the head.

> You don't need to be rich. No, but being rich helps with illusions of immortality and going with such a scheme.

You've posted four snide and low-content comments on this post. Do you have anything substantive to say, or are you just here to sneer?

Re: “I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

#33

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Insurance. You're betting technology will come far enough to build you a replacement body. You have nothing to lose because your other option is irreversible death.

Nothing to lose except the money you're spending on an icebox that you could've spent bettering the world you're leaving.

The cost of freezing yourself is on the order of tens of thousands of dollars, which is much less than most people spend over the course of their lives on things that don't directly improve the world.

Re: “I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

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> You don't need to be rich. No, but being rich helps with illusions of immortality and going with such a scheme.

You've posted four snide and low-content comments on this post. Do you have anything substantive to say, or are you just here to sneer?

For some subjects, sneering IS the substantive thing to say.

Would you expect "substantive comments" to some post about the discovery of a perpetual motion machine or intelligent design?

Re: “I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

#35

Could I freeze my brain now and come back in thirty years?

No, the procedure has never been demonstrated to work. There is no empirical evidence. These companies can not give a single instance of them resuscitating a human after undergoing these procedures. Not one. You are paying to have yourself frozen and stored, and that's it. The entire process is based on a combination of cynical opportunists, PR agents and deluded religious faithful who believe in "the procedure" without a shred of scientific proof, and gullible desperate rubes ignorant of empirical science.

Re: “I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

#36

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Insurance. You're betting technology will come far enough to build you a replacement body. You have nothing to lose because your other option is irreversible death.

Nothing to lose except the money you're spending on an icebox that you could've spent bettering the world you're leaving.

It's not like they are burning the cash. It is being invested and spent. The later portion injected back into the economy.

Re: “I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

#37

Would love to see some articles on statistics regarding the number of people who have been revived after this procedure. Is it still at 0%, with no scientific basis at all other than the evidence-free religious devotion of the faithful devotees, constantly posting claims without a shred of solid evidence?

> the number of people who have been revived after this procedure

This is going to be zero by default even with perfect preservation, given that the whole point is to freeze people because current medical technology can't keep them reliably alive for whatever reason.

There's no reason to even think about trying to revive people (rather than simply preserving them as thoroughly as possible) until geriatrics, cancer medicine, or whatever have advanced considerably.

Re: “I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

#38
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need to be rich. It costs very little to fund a $30k life insurance policy, which will get your whole body suspended with Cryonics Institute. Alcor is more, $80k for just the head.

> You don't need to be rich. No, but being rich helps with illusions of immortality and going with such a scheme.

Except you're dead and all your assets now belong to your heirs or some charity you've set up. If you're revived you'll be broke.

Re: “I lead a cryonics team and freeze people's brains for a living”

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post #27

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[citation needed]

How about you bring me the citations that show that they care about morality in such a line of work? Or do you think assuming everybody is moral in every line of business is a baseline for how the universe is and everything more cynical is some sort of extra-ordinary claim? If yes, then you'd be surprised. That's the corollary to what P. T. Barnum said, that "there's a sucker born every minute". What they do, is sell…

Did you even read the link already provided? I advise you to look into the history of the people on the Trust Board, and the people on Alcor's board of directors, and the people of Alcor's general staff. Note how many are members of Alcor, or who have family members already being preserved, and thus have a personal interest in the mission succeeding. How about you browse their library and see what things are being discussed and by whom? http://www.alcor.org/Library/index.html

Then consider you don't even have to be rich. As already noted on this very page (ed: I see you already noted that), it costs $80k to suspend your head with Alcor. Not $800k, which would still be pretty reasonable and not only for the rich, because someone in their 30s can pay only $60/mo for a 20-year life insurance policy paying out $1m.

Edit2: I'd also ask you to wonder if the company is evil, but trying to hide it so they can fool rich people, wouldn't they want to hide something like this which can be so easily used to characterize them as evil? http://www.alcor.org/Library/html/bringingdixieback.html

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