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Microsoft Edge: Building a safer browser

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Re: Microsoft Edge: Building a safer browser

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Post by ossreality »

jedberg wrote: post #5

Having met the engineers who actually built Edge, I can say with some confidence that I think this will the Microsoft browser people actually like. They built it from the ground up with security in mind, and with standards compatibility at the expense of backwards compatibility. In other words, they have finally decided that it is ok to tell their lagging enterprise customers to get with the times.

Yeah, I've met some of them too. Edge is still slow and missing a thousand niceties that everyone takes for granted in Firefox and Chrome.

Re: Microsoft Edge: Building a safer browser

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Post by ossreality »

cobalt wrote: post #10
rmtew wrote: post #9

> The largest change in Microsoft Edge security is that the new browser is a Universal Windows app. .... This provides the user and the platform with the confidence provided by other Windows store apps I see it's going to be a Windows Store app. I wonder how this will affect the usability for people like myself, who never see the metro side of windows unless I accidentally move the mouse near the wrong side of the sc…

Widnows 10 does not have fullscreen apps like windows 8 did

This is categorically incorrect.

Re: Microsoft Edge: Building a safer browser

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Post by 0x0 »

kid0m4n wrote: post #7

I believe that Microsoft not releasing versions for Linux / Mac OS X is going to not allow Edge to get maximum adoption. How am I supposed to test that my website works on Edge properly? The only option thus far is to setup a VM with Windows 10 on it so that I can run a browser to test my website. I dont even bother testing stuff on IE x for that reason.

www.modern.ie

And even if they did release linux or osx versions you would still want to test in windows, for the differences in font engines etc. Just like testing safari really requires osx.

Re: Microsoft Edge: Building a safer browser

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Post by cleverjake »

kid0m4n wrote: post #7

I believe that Microsoft not releasing versions for Linux / Mac OS X is going to not allow Edge to get maximum adoption. How am I supposed to test that my website works on Edge properly? The only option thus far is to setup a VM with Windows 10 on it so that I can run a browser to test my website. I dont even bother testing stuff on IE x for that reason.

THey actually discussed this at the recent spartan summit. A lot of the team would like to make a version for non windows, they just want to make a great one for windows first.

beyond that, there are a ton of ways to easily test IE.

http://dev.modern.ie/tools/

browserstack, saucelabs, free virtual machines for local testing, the azure remote tester amongst others.

Re: Microsoft Edge: Building a safer browser

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Post by mikhailt »

kid0m4n wrote: post #7

I believe that Microsoft not releasing versions for Linux / Mac OS X is going to not allow Edge to get maximum adoption. How am I supposed to test that my website works on Edge properly? The only option thus far is to setup a VM with Windows 10 on it so that I can run a browser to test my website. I dont even bother testing stuff on IE x for that reason.

The same way as before, Microsoft will release an Edge-dev optimized VM builds on their site here: http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/

They have other tools there to help as well. Microsoft is pretty good about helping devs here.

It's not like testing sites in Safari is better, Apple isn't even bothering to update Safari on Windows as it has been dead for nearly more than 2 years.

At least Microsoft is updating more often than Apple. They already have IE11 on Win10 dev VM there.

Re: Microsoft Edge: Building a safer browser

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Post by ethana »

I was hoping they would open source Edge at Build, but that was a bit optimistic of a time frame. There are still core components yet to be finished. Hope it will get done soon and have a solid code base to be released as open source.

Re: Microsoft Edge: Building a safer browser

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Post by kijin »

A bit off topic, but I really hope that Microsoft and Samsung have reached some sort of understanding regarding the name "Edge". A trademark dispute involving their new browser is the last thing Microsoft needs at this time. It was confusing enough when they had to change SkyDrive to OneDrive.

Re: Microsoft Edge: Building a safer browser

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Post by EugeneOZ »

0x0 wrote: post #13
kid0m4n wrote: post #7

I believe that Microsoft not releasing versions for Linux / Mac OS X is going to not allow Edge to get maximum adoption. How am I supposed to test that my website works on Edge properly? The only option thus far is to setup a VM with Windows 10 on it so that I can run a browser to test my website. I dont even bother testing stuff on IE x for that reason.

www.modern.ie And even if they did release linux or osx versions you would still want to test in windows, for the differences in font engines etc. Just like testing safari really requires osx.

and there's no analogues of modern.ie in Apple world :)

One can even try to test it remotely, without downloading and installing VM, but in some cases, such as animations testing, VM is more comfortable.

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