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Do you really think we'll create a bright future by continually setting the precedent it's ok to abuse people to get there? Won't tomorrow's leaders simply use their own visions of the future to justify their own abuse?
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You missed the "quality engineering work" disclaimer. Any reasonably good project manager knows that, between meetings, email, and water cooler conversation, you get about 30-32 hours of actual project work from someone each week.
Please tell my boss that :)
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Mars will be there in 20 years. Your kids' childhood won't.
OTOH the future my kid would live in would be better. But honestly though, if I knew I'm doing work I consider that important, I wouldn't decide to have a kid in the first place.
Human life is short term. Good genes and culture are long term. If everyone capable burned through their 50 or so years attempting to create a better world in such a hurry there'd be few with the capacity to perpetuate that vision or create their own.
It is not an either/or proposition. It is worth in in the long term to find balance, not for yourself, but for the future of humanity.
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>> I get working on big goals, I get working hard. I don't get throwing away everything else. It's not just your life it's the people who need a father and a friend. Agreed. The quote which finally got me to realize my family was more important than my job: "When you’re gone would you rather have your gravestone say, ‘He never missed a meeting.’ Or one that said, ‘He was a great father'."
I think the point is, that with this job, Musk want's people whose dream and life goal is the success of what the company is trying to do, and not to have a family or any such commonly accepted life goal. I believe improving space travel is one of a handful of dreams/goals that there are potentially enough talented people out there, that one could find the people who want this to be their life as opposed to that of a…
Musk even scolded a Tesla employee who missed an event to witness the birth of his child If true, that diminishes my respect for Elon just a touch. I mean, OK, I get it... when you're trying to change the world, you want passion, you want commitment, etc. Fine. But here's the thing: in the end, you're just as dead either way. Change the world, you're still dead. Don't change the world: You're dead. The only thing tha…
If this statement is true and in the proper context (who knows), this all but kills my respect for Musk. It basically puts him at the same level as Jobs, Ellison and others who are just egotistical, sociopathic assholes. Look, Musk /is/ out to change the world. His employees might not be, at least to the degree and level as he is. And, if they are, they'll likely not be remembered along with Musk. There is often only…
The thing is, there's nothing wrong with being obsessive, or even sociopathic to a point. Elon wants what he wants and he has a right to go after it with all his might. And to be honest, I expect he really is interested in making the world a better place in the general sense. Nothing about him gives off a "Bondian Supervillian" vibe or anything. I just think it's a mistake for him to assume that anyone else will necessarily share his level of dedication and passion, now matter how important his initiative is to him personally.
And when you start bossing people around, who would otherwise be your supporters, and saying stuff like this, I expect the principle consequence isn't "more commitment" form those people (not over the long-term anyway) but an increased desire on their part to tell you to fuck off, while they go find another outlet to try and change the world.
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The question is about whether you'd have it say that or that you were a great father. It's rare to be able to do both, particularly if the company's CEO says having a child is "no excuse" to miss an event. Not a deadline or a board presentation or an earnings report. An event .
Pretty sure the ppl of Nasa/JPL who actually put a man on the moon, worked reasonable hours and almost never missed dinner with family. So, I don't think they're mutually exclusive EDIT: So, everybody was screwed then? I must have mixed anecdotes :)
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The question is about whether you'd have it say that or that you were a great father. It's rare to be able to do both, particularly if the company's CEO says having a child is "no excuse" to miss an event. Not a deadline or a board presentation or an earnings report. An event .
Pretty sure the ppl of Nasa/JPL who actually put a man on the moon, worked reasonable hours and almost never missed dinner with family. So, I don't think they're mutually exclusive EDIT: So, everybody was screwed then? I must have mixed anecdotes :)
- NASA Flight Controller Gene Kranz
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If this statement is true and in the proper context (who knows), this all but kills my respect for Musk. It basically puts him at the same level as Jobs, Ellison and others who are just egotistical, sociopathic assholes. Look, Musk /is/ out to change the world. His employees might not be, at least to the degree and level as he is. And, if they are, they'll likely not be remembered along with Musk. There is often only…
> And, sadly, Musk probably doesn't realize because he is so wrapped up in his own world, but having a child IS changing the world for a few folks. But, ya know, sociopaths don't care about other people, just themselves. I'm partial about this. The reply (assuming it's true, context, etc.) seemed very harsh and inconsiderate, and struck me as not his style (but I never worked for him so I don't know how he is day-to-…
Dressing it up by saying you're changing the world is just another form of emotional manipulation.
[0] Anecdotal, but I work in the space industry. People taking off without prior notice for emergencies happens and doesn't elicit this type of response.