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Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by _lce0 »

snarfy wrote: post #91

The space at the end of the password entry was found in QA testing. Since we are an agile shop and run two week sprints that bug was left in and put on the backlog to be prioritized later. Gotta release every two weeks, even if it's utter crap. As long as the PBIs are completed, who cares about the users? It's a sad day when I have to sneak bug fixes that annoy me in on my free time, but this seems to be the norm in…

well .. that bugfix have associated a few risks..

1. let's suppose a user have a password: (note the space)

    " 123"
2. also you store the password using some hashing function, which prevents you from knowing the password.

3. two weeks later the bugfix goes live, the user cannot longer access the service.

Also, you cannot easily estimate how much benefit/annoyed users your _fix_ will endup having .. which makes it a higly risk change.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by orbifold »

madaxe_again wrote: post #77
Kenji wrote: post #5

He's right. What surprises me is the readiness of people to put up with that shit. I'm not sure if their patience with horrible design is just a result of their ignorance.

You say "people" as though you don't put up with it too... It's the same everywhere. Shit flows from the walls, up through the streets, through and within everything we interact with, because we've managed to build a civilisation on "that'll do" and "well, forever!" so far, and through some unlikely sequence of sheer fluke we're here to talk about it. The internet is a bodge job. The web is a bodge job. This finely m…

If you are philosophically inclined, you realize that art is one of the few exceptions to that. Artists are people that try to achieve perfection in a way that ordinary society doesn't allow.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by cecilpl »

tfigment wrote: post #92
loudmax wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use an app called AirDroid ( https://www.airdroid.com/ ) to copy files to/from my Moto G. It works reasonably well in my experience. I have no idea what the benefit of MTP over USB mass storage was imagined to be.

I looked at that but have you seen the permissions required. Wow. Change my contact list? I'm sure they have good reasons but I'm struggling with that for something I'm going to use for copying files. While I've gotten MTP to work ok its not a first class experience. Folders with many files (like photos) can take a long time to even start copying. I assumed that MTP was done due avoid patents over FAT32 with Microsof…

The reason they need permission to change your contact list is because Airdroid can change your contact list from your phone.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by Goladus »

Goladus wrote: post #44
Aoyagi wrote: post #23

Yes please! I'm so tired of all the annoying bloat all over the web that makes (not only) older browsers die just thinking about visiting the sites. It looks like the "progress" nowadays is going for "more complex and resource-demanding with less features and control".

> less features and control Oh there is more control. Just not for you, the user.

ps for the downvoter: My comment is entirely serious.

Breaking the web for fun and profit, 101:

The simplest example I can think of is the fact that in a standard google web search, "copy link address" does not give you the actual destination address, rather a google tracking link.

Another: Image attachments in gmail. Now there's this overlay that asks you whether to download, open in google drive, or view in the gmail image viewer (which conveniently has interfaces with a bunch of other google apps I don't care about). Now you might think the google image viewer is nice, but personally I liked my once-upon-a-time ability to just look at images directly in my browser with a single click.

So I gain nothing, google gains everything. They are wresting control of how I access my files, every step of the way.

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Post by markbnj »

harperlee wrote: post #66
tomphoolery wrote: post #10

"I don't keep any cookies or browse history" Why not? "I get the numeric code sent to me. I go to Google Voice on my computer" This seems like it defeats the purpose of 2FA. Am I wrong? Isn't 2FA supposed to work by proving that you own a device for which it was set up on? "always download all the images made by Google Charts because that service will die at some point" Probably. If it matters to you, learn some Java…

Upvote for "never rely on a service that you don't pay for"; I think that idea needs to be said out loud more often.

I agree, but to some extent I think we all do pay for Google services. They sit at the junction of just about everything we do online, and they've turned everything we do, look at, hear, say. etc. into a commodity data product that they sell over and over again. The services are either compensation or bait, depending on how you want to look at it :).

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by Nemcue »

_asciiker_ wrote: post #18
talles wrote: post #14

> login bullshit that DTA can't handle Pardon my ignorance, but what's a DTA ?

The DownThemAll extension, pretty great.

It's honestly quite sad that it's been — what 10 years now? — and we still can't properly pause and resume a download from a browser.

I remember using DTA for the first time back in the day and going "Oh wow, nice!". It just such a basic facility to provide. Resumable downloads should be available in all browsers.

But no, doing some user profile shit that no one wants: that's what they spend time on.

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Post by Ntrails »

jdg1 wrote: post #71

"You can fucking strip the leading $ and commas you piece of shit mother fucking asshole terrible programmers." That sounds sensible, but now you've just broken it for every country that uses comma as a decimal mark.

My favourite was a recent banking webform which refused to recognise "0". Apparently it's not a real number. When I got through to support, they explained I had to leave the box blank to represent zero...

Mind: Blown.

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Post by andrewstuart2 »

RankingMember wrote: post #54

This reminds me of Bill Gates' email documenting his experiencing trying to install and run Windows MovieMaker (read from the bottom): http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/files/library/2003Jangat...

I really appreciate how even-keeled he is despite being utterly frustrated with the experience. I think the worst he said was "crap," which I find refreshing.

That's something I hope I bring to every team I'm on.

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