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Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by linschn »

madaxe_again wrote: post #64
spapin wrote: post #2

10 years ago, you would have to pay a photographer to develop the photos and go to a fucking post office, then your mom would wait a week to receive them.

Fucking bullshit, 100 years ago you would have got off your ass and SHOWN the baby to your mom. Little by little, we abstract ourselves away.

100 years ago, the mother would have died from blood loss and septic shock and the baby from a diarrhea a few weeks later. Also, the baby's father would be in the trenches somewhere in the North of France and the baby's grandmother would have 3 years to live before the 1918 flu kills her.

I'm good now ;)

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Post by icebraining »

VLM wrote: post #68
tomphoolery wrote: post #10

"I don't keep any cookies or browse history" Why not? "I get the numeric code sent to me. I go to Google Voice on my computer" This seems like it defeats the purpose of 2FA. Am I wrong? Isn't 2FA supposed to work by proving that you own a device for which it was set up on? "always download all the images made by Google Charts because that service will die at some point" Probably. If it matters to you, learn some Java…

"This seems like it defeats the purpose of 2FA. Am I wrong? Isn't 2FA supposed to work by proving that you own a device for which it was set up on?" The bug is in the design of 2FA. Sooner or later Google will get rid of GV and I'll just move to another provider to front-end my SMS spam instead of sending it to my phone. The other failure mode is best displayed by my bank not realizing their site is accessible via mo…

Also the creep-app (...) seems to be permanently logged in

That's terrible. My bank's app is actually really insistent on logging me out; just locking the screen or switching apps will immediately lock it - though it doesn't lose internal state, which is nice.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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tomphoolery wrote: post #10

"I don't keep any cookies or browse history" Why not? "I get the numeric code sent to me. I go to Google Voice on my computer" This seems like it defeats the purpose of 2FA. Am I wrong? Isn't 2FA supposed to work by proving that you own a device for which it was set up on? "always download all the images made by Google Charts because that service will die at some point" Probably. If it matters to you, learn some Java…

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Post by intrasight »

jdg1 wrote: post #71

"You can fucking strip the leading $ and commas you piece of shit mother fucking asshole terrible programmers." That sounds sensible, but now you've just broken it for every country that uses comma as a decimal mark.

But they know you locale and could do the right thing. Is not at all hard.

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Post by espadrine »

VLM wrote: post #68
tomphoolery wrote: post #10

"I don't keep any cookies or browse history" Why not? "I get the numeric code sent to me. I go to Google Voice on my computer" This seems like it defeats the purpose of 2FA. Am I wrong? Isn't 2FA supposed to work by proving that you own a device for which it was set up on? "always download all the images made by Google Charts because that service will die at some point" Probably. If it matters to you, learn some Java…

"This seems like it defeats the purpose of 2FA. Am I wrong? Isn't 2FA supposed to work by proving that you own a device for which it was set up on?" The bug is in the design of 2FA. Sooner or later Google will get rid of GV and I'll just move to another provider to front-end my SMS spam instead of sending it to my phone. The other failure mode is best displayed by my bank not realizing their site is accessible via mo…

> The bug is in the design of 2FA

While 2FA is often phrased as “Something you know and something you have”, I find that misleading. Knowledge is acquired from information, and the way they check what you have is through information alone.

What it really proves is that the telephony system authenticates you as part of their network. That authentication is done by the SIM card, which it is assumed you have unlocked with a password of entropy 13.3 if it's a PIN code with four random digits.

That, and your actual password.

By far the easiest way to get incorrectly identified through the telephony system is to break the PIN code, which requires to have physical access to your SIM card. But if all your secure HTTP cookies and/or your keyrings are only protected by that as well, then yes, your 2FA has a single point of failure. It goes from an arbitrarily strong password and something you have to a 13-bit entropy password and something you have. Or, if like so many you leak PIN code information from your life or the traces you leave on the surface of your phone, just something you have.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by rmk2 »

josephpmay wrote: post #21

It's funny. He seems to hate all Google products yet is fully absorbed in the Google universe.

Why is that funny, really? Some of his grievances can really only materialise because he uses the products. I have never had many of these problems, because I use none of these products. The point is that he wants to use "all Google products", yet they are in such a state as to make that impossible, at least for him. Somebody who would use them if they could use them is a much worse case for Google (or any other company, for that matter) than somebody who rejects them without an actual will to use them.

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Post by protomyth »

Goladus wrote: post #41
harel wrote: post #13

Phone -> USB Cable -> Computer. Transfer images via said cable. Select images, put in email and send to mum. Having said that - all his points are valid, though I'm not sure I'd bother to get that angry at stuff that is out of my contorl.

> Having said that - all his points are valid, though I'm not sure I'd bother to get that angry at stuff that is out of my contorl. Part of the problem I think comes from feeling like you are in control in one moment then having that control taken from you for stupid or selfish reasons. For example, I was listening to music with PowerAMP the other day on my android phone as I walked home from work. Spontaneously, my…

Sadly, in the new world, we cannot just remove the battery to stop the machine from doing stupid crap.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

RankingMember wrote: post #54

This reminds me of Bill Gates' email documenting his experiencing trying to install and run Windows MovieMaker (read from the bottom): http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/files/library/2003Jangat...

Oh, this mail exchange is golden. Note in particular one of the responses to Bill's concerns:

"One of the biggest issues today is that WU provides no way to promote a download to an end-user. We want to promote MM2 and WMP98 to end-users as something new and cool that they can get for Windows. Three lines of text describing it buried under "Windows XP" in a page thal the user has to purposeful~/go find just isn’t good enough. Why can’t the WU client-s~de piece proactively display a bubble "Look! Cool, new features for Windows XP" and the option to display a much richer "advertisement" for the feature if the user wants to read more"

(WU is Windows Update)

This is how we end up with so much crap in software. It's like there are people in important positions who live in alternate reality where those ideas don't immediately sound fucking insane.

Thank you for posting this rare opportunity to look into the minds of people that are responsible for all this mess we have to deal with.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by elchief »

dheera wrote: post #43

Sometimes I use the classic version of Gmail just because it loads the whole page in less than 1 second and I can read my e-mail in another 0.5 seconds. With the "modern" version I have to stare at a blank screen with a stupid progress bar for about 2-3 seconds before seeing anything.

But AJAX!
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