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Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by Aoyagi »

Yes please! I'm so tired of all the annoying bloat all over the web that makes (not only) older browsers die just thinking about visiting the sites. It looks like the "progress" nowadays is going for "more complex and resource-demanding with less features and control".

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by microtonal »

ryanmcdonough wrote: post #8
mariusz79 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. you're wrong. 10 years ago you could do all of this from your fucking home, just like you can do it now. The only difference is - you did not have to deal with all that Javascript bs.

Ah yes, I'll just develop my own photos at home - seems like a good idea for everyone in the world to do.

FYI: ten years ago, we had e-mail, Flickr, Smugmug, web galleries, halfway decent digital cameras.

Also, the thread starter was setting up a straw man, no one said that developing photos yourself was better. Just that the experience of many web applications is not so good.

(Personally, I use BTSync's and/or Dropbox's photo sync, so that it shows up as a file on my machines. Sharing works fine as well, especially since Dropbox has the family-friendly Carousel that pulls photos of regular Dropbox.)

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by kyllo »

spapin wrote: post #2

10 years ago, you would have to pay a photographer to develop the photos and go to a fucking post office, then your mom would wait a week to receive them.

What are you talking about? Picasa (which is now Google Photos) has been around since 2002.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by TeMPOraL »

_y31x wrote: post #20
tomphoolery wrote: post #10

"I don't keep any cookies or browse history" Why not? "I get the numeric code sent to me. I go to Google Voice on my computer" This seems like it defeats the purpose of 2FA. Am I wrong? Isn't 2FA supposed to work by proving that you own a device for which it was set up on? "always download all the images made by Google Charts because that service will die at some point" Probably. If it matters to you, learn some Java…

Regarding image-google-chart, and other google APIs: I was going to voice my support for this complaint, as I have a number of still popular projects that use it (and will need fixes or updates), but I had to rethink that. Conclusion: free lunch is over. Some of us developers are learning that we can't rely on a free (or even paid) service for any long term.

> Conclusion: free lunch is over. Some of us developers are learning that we can't rely on a free (or even paid) service for any long term.

I totally agree. SaaS is ephemeral. Personally I don't expect to see a SaaS site being active for more than two-three years, because the goal of most startups is to get bought, at which point they'll happily let the product die or turn into a piece of crap. If I use a third party service, I do that with an expectation that my project is temporary and will die/get superseded faster than the service it relies on.

Re: Did I ever mention that I fucking hate the fucking web

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Post by _lce0 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #19
Kenji wrote: post #5

He's right. What surprises me is the readiness of people to put up with that shit. I'm not sure if their patience with horrible design is just a result of their ignorance.

It's similar to the patience people have to put up with ads, or crapware, or most of the mobile apps being useless and ugly and broken. I think most of the people just don't expect anything better, blindly accepting whatever is there because they can't imagine that technology could actually be good. I can, and I sometimes wish I couldn't - so that web and mobile experience wouldn't be so goddamn annoying.

I've seen many times where users have incredibly patience with tedious things --like entering their git password all the time, instead of setting auth keys.

I think it's a mix of both ignorance of better options, and familiarity with the status-quo.

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