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Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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I will say right now I will never pay a subscription to windows. I'll switch back to Linux even though I feel like as a whole Linux has stagnated for at least the last decade in the desktop arena.

The Linux Desktop has many problems, but I'm not sure stagnation is one of them.

If anything things are churning a little too much, and this is before the Wayland/Mir transitions have started to kick off yet.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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This was news around January, I thought. Why are all the tech sites playing this up now? I feel like i could reply to half the top level posts with this link: http://blogs.windows.com/business/2015/01/30/windows-10-for-... >January 30, 2015 > this is much more than a one-time upgrade: once a Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it current via Windows Update for the supported lifetime of…

It was known but never confirmed until Microsoft mentioned it at Ignite this week.

I don't follow, does something that was on the official Windows blog and not retracted or removed for months need to be "confirmed?"

Maybe "re-framed" for frankly lazy tech "journalists" is a more accurate summation of what occurred?

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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What do you like better in Windows 7 than 8.1? Seriously, I have been a long time OS X and Linux user, and 8.1 has won me back to the Microsoft fold. I still use Linux and OSX, but WIndows 8.1 is now something I frequently use. I was not impressed by Windows 7. So, serious question, what do you like better about Windows 7.

Windows 8 came with skydrive preinstalled, and I removed it. 8.1 has skydrive "integrated into the OS", so it can't be removed. I tried skydrive on windows 7 when skydrive was first released, and instructed it to sync a few specific folders. I didn't like it enough to keep using it, so I uninstalled it and forgot about it. In order to upgrade from 8 to 8.1, I had to put my microsoft account into the system (because t…

Just don't user the OneDrive folder. The default folder for documents is just a local folder I believe.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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Entirely an enterprise play - gone are those firms that essentially say "we'll stick with XP". They'll either be forced into a subscription model or will switch off to another platform. This is also a huge win for not having the need to support super old OSes, which is a huge tax in not just support cost, but also testing and designing for backward compatibility.

This is an anti-enterprise play. There are significant costs to OS updates, including retraining, downtime, and legacy (working) software compatibility. Most enterprises are pretty good at applying security patches but rightly balk at full OS upgrades.

>This is also a huge win for not having the need to support super old OSes

Who wins?

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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I don't think it's that unique to have continuous upgrades without major versions. It just seems too generic, but hey, who knows. I've seen all sorts of nonsense things.

Uh, yeah but didn't Cyanogen recently announce they're working with Microsoft? But maybe that's just a coincidence.

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Your monthly subscription payments will come in the form of monthly Azure payments. People will accept that. This isn't 1996 anymore. People don't buy desktops, and laptops will soon be obsolete too. When your phone has a processor powerful enough to do all the work a consumer could ever want, there will be 3 main markets. Mobile, Server, and Gaming. Now they probably could keep charging for the OS for the gaming PC'…

> Your monthly subscription payments will come in the form of monthly Azure payments. Leverage their desktop monopoly to gain market share in the cloud? Sounds familiar. Maybe Azure is just part of Windows, like IE?

Anyone can use Azure. They even have Linux distros available. Deploy what you want. Get charged micro transactions for CPU time. When your machine in the cloud is off, you only have a storage fee. Consumers won't really notice and Azure is priced to compete against other cloud providers.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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I'm not happy with this. I waited on XP until they got over vista, and I'm still on 7 while I watch in bemusement at the windows 8.1 nonsense. Now, with windows 10, my security updates will come bundled with my unwanted OS changes. I doubt microsoft will let people opt out of unwanted cloud-based security risks or crazy interface experiments.

I think you could technically block updates that would appear to be major/minor updates. That level of control will have to be available for enterprise releases. I don't know what will happen with security updates though if you purposefully block some updates and allow others. It may be that some security patches will be dependent upon other system updates.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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The obvious question is, how are we going to pay for this? With no periodic releases of new versions, it seems that Windows 10 will either be a subscription based service or, in all likelihood, a collection of subscription based services and extra features with a free, but spartan, core. It's an interesting move, but I suspect MS is severely underestimating the backlash that will exist against monthly OS subscription…

Office365/OneDrive are doing well too. Anecdotally, I and many of my peers and family have taken out $120/yr family subscriptions, which is probably pretty close to - if not erring on the higher side of - the annual cost of Windows OS amortised over the frequency with which I/they replaced or added computers.

Amusingly, of 10+, I now only have one computing device running Windows at all (and it defaults to booting Ubuntu anyway), and yet Microsoft is still taking my money!

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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Piracy will come back with a vengeance. I don't know how they'll tell people who go buy their laptops that they have to pay a monthly subscription if they want to keep using it.

Anyone coming on HN and suggesting Microsoft is going to charge a monthly subscription for their OS is completely out of touch with reality.

Especially as it's already been announced that Windows 10 will be a free upgrade from pirated versions of Windows 7.
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