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Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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What do you like better in Windows 7 than 8.1? Seriously, I have been a long time OS X and Linux user, and 8.1 has won me back to the Microsoft fold. I still use Linux and OSX, but WIndows 8.1 is now something I frequently use. I was not impressed by Windows 7. So, serious question, what do you like better about Windows 7.

I'm an Ubuntu Linux and OS X user and have been trying to like Windows 8.1 in the last weeks. The problems I have in no particular order ... - network management in Windows 7 was usable, whereas in 8.1 it is totally fucked - Microsoft accounts are on their way to become mandatory, as creating a regular account is not user friendly and there's a big and scary warning when you go that route; they are basically trying t…

I thought Heroes of Might & Magic III was available for Linux anyway.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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The obvious question is, how are we going to pay for this? With no periodic releases of new versions, it seems that Windows 10 will either be a subscription based service or, in all likelihood, a collection of subscription based services and extra features with a free, but spartan, core. It's an interesting move, but I suspect MS is severely underestimating the backlash that will exist against monthly OS subscription…

Presumably, we're not -- updates will be free, and the policy "pays" from increased focus and less disruption within Microsoft's product strategy. After a period, they only need maintain one version, and none of the updates can hurt adoption.

In other words, they've just announced that they're not going to pull another Vista or Windows 8 that damaged their brand, and neither are they going to make the mistake of supporting XP for so many many years again.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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On the other hand you could see it as simply spreading out the changes you would get from major updates every few years. Incremental changes to the OS may only impose a small cognitive burden of adapting at any given time instead of presenting a seemingly insurmountable obstacle all at once. Frog and a boiling pot of water.

Frogs try to jump out of boiling water. I understand you mean it metaphorically, but like the expression "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" it has no scientific basis.

Do you catch more flies with rotting flesh than with sterilised water?

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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>To support Windows 10 devices in these mission critical customer environments we will provide Long Term Servicing branches at the appropriate time intervals. On these branches, customer devices will receive the level of enterprise support expected for the mission critical systems, keeping systems more secure with the latest security and critical updates, while minimizing change by not delivering new features for the…

That sounds like Ubuntu's support policy! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS

Where do you think these open source companies got the idea for long-term support policies from in the first place? Microsoft and IBM had been selling software and supporting for enough length of time that these things became necessary long before OSS projects caught up.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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So I wonder if they are they going to move to more aggressively limiting you moving a license from one machine to another. Or are they just going to rely on people just paying for the convenience of having Windows pre-installed and working out of the box? In all honesty, they'll probably do fine relying on the latter.

I suspect eventually Windows will be a free OS, like OSX now is, used to drive sales for other more profitable products.

Well, the difference is that Apple sells hardware. It actually used to be the case that computer manufacturers routinely bundled operating systems for "free" with their hard ware. This has been a kegal issue in some cases, e.g. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/473/908/

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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What do you like better in Windows 7 than 8.1? Seriously, I have been a long time OS X and Linux user, and 8.1 has won me back to the Microsoft fold. I still use Linux and OSX, but WIndows 8.1 is now something I frequently use. I was not impressed by Windows 7. So, serious question, what do you like better about Windows 7.

Windows 8 came with skydrive preinstalled, and I removed it. 8.1 has skydrive "integrated into the OS", so it can't be removed. I tried skydrive on windows 7 when skydrive was first released, and instructed it to sync a few specific folders. I didn't like it enough to keep using it, so I uninstalled it and forgot about it. In order to upgrade from 8 to 8.1, I had to put my microsoft account into the system (because t…

If retaining data like that would land you in jail, you shouldn't be using cloud storage in the first place. Likely you'd be (rightfully) fired for doing so.

Cortana can be disabled, or never turned on even.

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