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Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

#141
So are we going to be seeing just Windows 10 minor versions from now on? Maybe they could just shorten the name to WinOS 10, and in a year they can release WinOS 10.1.

Maybe the minor versions could all be named after something interesting, like different species of large cats, or Washington area landmarks?

WinOS 10.10 Rainier?

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

#142
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stream boxes run on Windows...

The parent was referring to " Steam boxes", i.e. http://store.steampowered.com/steamos

That's StreamOS, there's a different. Most of the Steam boxes come with Windows 8 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/186-2840984-5406453...).

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

#144
The only thing that worries me with this approach is what if the great minds behind the Windows 8 UI strike again? Right now I could try windows 8 and 10 in a VM and make a decision on whether I want to switch from Windows 7. With that approach everyone will be Microsoft's Guinea pig.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

#145

I'm not happy with this. I waited on XP until they got over vista, and I'm still on 7 while I watch in bemusement at the windows 8.1 nonsense. Now, with windows 10, my security updates will come bundled with my unwanted OS changes. I doubt microsoft will let people opt out of unwanted cloud-based security risks or crazy interface experiments.

What do you like better in Windows 7 than 8.1? Seriously, I have been a long time OS X and Linux user, and 8.1 has won me back to the Microsoft fold. I still use Linux and OSX, but WIndows 8.1 is now something I frequently use. I was not impressed by Windows 7. So, serious question, what do you like better about Windows 7.

Windows 8 came with skydrive preinstalled, and I removed it. 8.1 has skydrive "integrated into the OS", so it can't be removed.

I tried skydrive on windows 7 when skydrive was first released, and instructed it to sync a few specific folders. I didn't like it enough to keep using it, so I uninstalled it and forgot about it.

In order to upgrade from 8 to 8.1, I had to put my microsoft account into the system (because the update was only offered through the store). Upon finishing the update, it immediately downloaded everything that had been in the "my documents" folder of my desktop when I had first tried skydrive, two years prior.

I never told it to sync "my documents" during that trial run, and I didn't know those files had been sitting on microsofts server for all that time. I had legal documents stored in there.

Windows 8.1 does things without asking me. Windows 10 will do the same. I don't want them to.

I shouldn't have to spend large amounts of effort making sure my own computer isn't doing things behind my back, regardless of whether microsofts engineers mean the best or not.

If I could remove skydrive (and cortana in win10, and whatever other new ~cloud~ features they dream up), I wouldn't care, but apparently it's all "integrated", so I can't remove it. Consumption is mandatory, it would seem.

Well I'm sorry, but I've worked jobs where the penalty for retaining information you no longer have official need for is 2 years prison. The penalty for leaking information in my current job is "merely" losing my job and consequently being deported.

I don't trust windows 8.1, and I don't trust windows 10. The best word to describe both operating systems is "treacherous".

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

#146
post #76

The obvious question is, how are we going to pay for this? With no periodic releases of new versions, it seems that Windows 10 will either be a subscription based service or, in all likelihood, a collection of subscription based services and extra features with a free, but spartan, core. It's an interesting move, but I suspect MS is severely underestimating the backlash that will exist against monthly OS subscription…

Potentially they could keep the same model they have now. Even though the updates are ongoing, people will not use the same computer forever. With automatic updates, Microsoft gains greater control over the performance profile of Windows, too. (ever tried sticking with the same iPhone for more than a couple of iOS versions?)

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

#147
post #144

The only thing that worries me with this approach is what if the great minds behind the Windows 8 UI strike again? Right now I could try windows 8 and 10 in a VM and make a decision on whether I want to switch from Windows 7. With that approach everyone will be Microsoft's Guinea pig.

That's what they want. A unified user base paying monthly fees.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

#148
post #76

The obvious question is, how are we going to pay for this? With no periodic releases of new versions, it seems that Windows 10 will either be a subscription based service or, in all likelihood, a collection of subscription based services and extra features with a free, but spartan, core. It's an interesting move, but I suspect MS is severely underestimating the backlash that will exist against monthly OS subscription…

I'm curious as to how much revenue/profit Microsoft still makes from the desktop line of Windows. Would setting desktop Windows free really hurt revenues at Microsoft that much? I'm not denying that each release of Windows requires engineering effort. I figured most of Microsoft's profits come from software and services running on-top Windows, so SQL Server, Office, etc... Perhaps still charge for Windows Server, but…

I think they probably make a ton on OEM installations on new computers. Consumer upgrades didn't pay for the support required for non-upgrades.

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

#149

I'm not happy with this. I waited on XP until they got over vista, and I'm still on 7 while I watch in bemusement at the windows 8.1 nonsense. Now, with windows 10, my security updates will come bundled with my unwanted OS changes. I doubt microsoft will let people opt out of unwanted cloud-based security risks or crazy interface experiments.

What do you like better in Windows 7 than 8.1? Seriously, I have been a long time OS X and Linux user, and 8.1 has won me back to the Microsoft fold. I still use Linux and OSX, but WIndows 8.1 is now something I frequently use. I was not impressed by Windows 7. So, serious question, what do you like better about Windows 7.

>8.1 has won me back to the Microsoft fold

Yuck. Why?

Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

#150
With the entire stack from the OS to browser changing on a frequent basis (with the exception of some Internet protocols), with the changes being uncoordinated between stack components (e.g., Windows may change its video codec on Monday and the game's video subsystem might be updated on Tuesday, with no coordination between them), what will developers target? How will Microsoft deliver reliability to customers?
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