So this refers just to the branding of Windows, right? Unless they've figured out a way to replace versioning, surely there will still be "versions" to hint at compatibility and mark certain upgrades for the sake of developers.
Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Care to tell me what your issue is with Windows 8.1? I've been using 8/8.1 for well over a year now, and it has been, perhaps, one of the best installments of the Windows line of operating systems I have ever used. There are a variety of third party applications and workarounds that can effectively re-patch explorer.exe to completely disable Modern UI and bring back the old start menu (think Start Is Back).
"Care to tell me what your issue is with Windows 8.1?" You answered your own question with this line: "There are a variety of third party applications and workarounds that can effectively re-patch explorer.exe to completely disable Modern UI and bring back the old start menu (think Start Is Back)." Making a deploy image that doesn't try to get computers to sign in to Microsoft's cloud services and doesn't require pat…
Its quite buggy and unstable too
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#93I would be intrigued by an Adobe Creative Cloud equivalent for Microsoft products. Especially if it meant that a subscription was per-person , instead of per-machine. This would work especially well coupled with the global "floating identities" introduced through signing in with your Microsoft Account. The image I would have is of Windows being automatically updated either way, but preventing sign-in to Microsoft Acc…
Such a model would create an amazing marketing opportunity for a Linux based OS. Instead of paying an annoying monthly subscription you get a free office system built in. Not including such basic functionality with the OS is like selling a phone without batteries. Suddenly Linux becomes a premium product with lots of high quality software included compared to the annoying app store you get with Windows.
In other words, it would force all the people currently pirating Windows and Office to actually decide between the products on offer based on their previously-merely-nominal market positions. (Which is, indeed, what Creative Cloud has done for Adobe.)
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#94I tried windows 8.1 for a while on my gaming desktop pc. Aside from the awful metro garbage thrown on top of the OS (which can be removed / turned off) It was quite unstable, all my games would randomly crash, even the mouse exhibited weird behaviour and bugs. I went back to 7, everything is fine now. I get the impression windows 10 will be more of the same, this is just pushing me more and more towards using linux a…
The trick to Windows 8.1 is getting the correct drivers from your OEM and not using the built in drivers. For me I had to go to my motherboard maker's website and download the 8/8.1 64 bit drivers, update the BIOS, and then get the Nividia drivers for my GPU and make sure they always update. GPU drives can break Windows 8.1 when it comes to video games. There are always updated drivers that fix issues with video game…
That sucks! The OS's job is to allow you do use the computer to do what you want and not get in the way. Having to implement various workarounds and fixes for many different applications (which I'm sure will conflict with one another at some stage) means windows 8.1 is a failure as an OS.
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#95I'm not happy with this. I waited on XP until they got over vista, and I'm still on 7 while I watch in bemusement at the windows 8.1 nonsense. Now, with windows 10, my security updates will come bundled with my unwanted OS changes. I doubt microsoft will let people opt out of unwanted cloud-based security risks or crazy interface experiments.
What do you like better in Windows 7 than 8.1? Seriously, I have been a long time OS X and Linux user, and 8.1 has won me back to the Microsoft fold. I still use Linux and OSX, but WIndows 8.1 is now something I frequently use. I was not impressed by Windows 7.
So, serious question, what do you like better about Windows 7.
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#96"The developers would be locked away and out would pop a product based on what the world wanted three years ago."
The world did not want Windows 8.
Re: Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft has already softened their pricing strategy by offering Windows for free on small tablets and by not charging for the upgrades from Windows 8 to 8.1 or to 10. Perhaps they don't see Windows as the cash cow that it once was and will make all upgrades free.
Actually, they even include Windows 7, not only 8 or 8.1 [0]. I guess that "for the first year" will probably be extended as well... Edit: if this [1] reuters article is true (I couldn't find a reference on Microsoft's site), they are also including pirated versions... [0] http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/about [1] http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/18/us-microsoft-china...
This is because 8 and 8.1 are a downgrade compared to 7 and weren't received well. Consider that Windows XP has a bigger market share than 8 and 8.1 combined.
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#98Microsoft is getting into the software subscription model.
Remember Office 365? You don't own a copy of Office, you only rent it per year and when updates come out you get the updates as long as you keep paying.
Windows 10 is going to be a software subscription model. They'll most likely have a free upgrade version but it is limited in features. If you want more features you will have to buy a subscription.
They already announced a Windows 10.1 codenamed Redstone. So each Windows update will have a 10 in front of it for now on. Will Microsoft charge for upgrading to 10.1? Who knows? Instead of service packs, they just do what Apple does and add a new number after the 10 and call in a minor version or whatever.
I got a feeling pirated Windows users will get a free update that is basically a Starter Edition with limits on it, and they have to buy a subscription to get out of the limited version.
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#99I tried windows 8.1 for a while on my gaming desktop pc. Aside from the awful metro garbage thrown on top of the OS (which can be removed / turned off) It was quite unstable, all my games would randomly crash, even the mouse exhibited weird behaviour and bugs. I went back to 7, everything is fine now. I get the impression windows 10 will be more of the same, this is just pushing me more and more towards using linux a…
this is very much the same as apple gating ios development to apple products. playing video games on windows 8 (not 8.1) is fine anyways.
Yeah, windows store development is as bad as iOS development. A very low bar. I've developed for iOS and I get the impression MS are following apples lead here.
I cant abide when something pragmatic has its design intentionally made less useful for arbitrary reasons. As I said, I'm fine, I'm just going more and more towards linux, where the goal is to make the OS as useful as possible and most importantly empower the user rather than the other way around. I just still have to use windows 8 and osx in work.
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#100Any ideas on how this is going to work for new machines some years from now? Would you install the current win 10 and then a bulk of service packs?