I understand the thoughts about changing the current pricing. However, it would be really good if Heroku would support the community with a 24/7 dyno for open source projects. It hurts if you need to put in additional monetary effort into projects you provide for free.
Free (as in beer) Dynos
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Re: Free (as in beer) Dynos
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or pay $7 per month?
It's for an open source project, not an internal work instance or anything. As a student at uni with no full time job, adding more monthly charges is hard to deal with.
I'd try to scrounge some old computer from your CS department or buy a raspberry pi and run it on that.
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#43So what's the down side they failed to mention? Whats the difference between a hobby (7$) dyno than a real dyno?
Hobby dynos are real dynos. :) Professional dynos, like the new `standard-1x` will have scale-out, Heroku Metrics, preboot, and mix with other dyno types: all features we have found are most useful for apps at scale. We hope that between the new `free` and `hobby` dynos you should have good choices that support almost any personal or small scale professional app you might want to build.
So hobby dynos should be able to run the same type of application as a 1x dyno, just with fewer other features more or less?
I have a small scale web application (around 5K pageviews per day) that runs very well on the one free web dyno currently offered. (We do have costs for the DB and SSL). I assume in the next few months I'll have to move it to either a hobby or 1x dyno. Obviously I'd rather move it to the hobby one because I don't need an additional $220 or so cost per year. It would be great to have a few more details on the site about the specs behind the free and hobby dynos!
Re: Free (as in beer) Dynos
#44What exactly is a Process Type?
In your Procfile you can have any type of process you want. The "web" process type is just special because it expects you to open an listening tcp socket on the port it provides in their environmental variable to your app. Aside from that you could say have a worker process, emailer process, etc and scale them independently.
Re: Free (as in beer) Dynos
#45The good news is, they decided to keep the custom domain on the free tier. Last news we had, it was only available with the hobby.
Also, 18 hours daily sounds good compared to the initial 12 hours.
Not as disappointed as expected about these changes :)
Re: Free (as in beer) Dynos
#46So they're getting rid of their free option for another free option that gives you only 18hrs of non-sleep time a day. How is this not a downgrade?
You could call it a side-grade. We're also allowing users to add a worker dyno and use up to 18hrs/day of `heroku run` and scheduler one-off dynos as well. All told you can get quite a few more compute-hours for free applications now than before.
It's too bad. For me, the free web worker option was an avenue that made it easy to consume Heroku's paid and partner services.
Re: Free (as in beer) Dynos
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could call it a side-grade. We're also allowing users to add a worker dyno and use up to 18hrs/day of `heroku run` and scheduler one-off dynos as well. All told you can get quite a few more compute-hours for free applications now than before.
You can call it what you want, but for what I (and others presumably) use it for, the 24/7 uptime is essential. Sure an argument can be made for needing to pay for 24/7 uptime, but it is very clearly a downgrade in such a case where such an argument even needs to be made!
No argument needs to be made. If you want 24/7 uptime, you need to pay for it. Under the old model you were just freeloading.
Re: Free (as in beer) Dynos
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
A pricing change was long overdue. AWS (which Heroku relies on to host everything) has been getting a lot cheaper in the last few years, but Heroku never changed its pricing and pocketed the difference.
Unfortunately it's strictly a price increase for everyone who bought a second dyno to get out of the freeloader tier. $35/mo (one free + one standard dyno @ $35/ea) to $50/mo (two standard dynos @ $25/ea). It's only a price decrease for people with 4+ dynos.
Not really — if you were paying $35/month JUST to have always-on dynos, you should be able to downgrade to the $7/month hobby tier.
If you really needed that 2nd dyno for performance reasons, then yeah, it's a price hike.
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Re: Free (as in beer) Dynos
#50Previously, worker dynos never slept. On the new free dynos, you now get a free worker dyno, but the tradeoff is that the app must sleep for 6 hours/day.
Does that sleeping time include the worker dynos? If it does, when do they sleep? Workers can't "timeout" like web dynos can.