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Lawmakers in France Move to Vastly Expand Surveillance

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Re: Lawmakers in France Move to Vastly Expand Surveillance

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Post by linkregister »

zurn wrote: post #92
linkregister wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why @higherpurpose was downvoted, she or he described accurately the surveillance programs revealed by Ed, according to the leaked documents [1]. Of course we don't have the luxury of leaked French docs, but in the absence of data, we shouldn't automatically leap to the position supported by the least amount of evidence. [1] Selectors used: https://prod01-cdn00.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/20...

Because the description was one sided and neglected to mention NSA's VPN related activities. Eg that they actively seek to discover and keep track of VPN users. And that traffic analysis is generally as powerful as content inspection once you have a target.

Hmm, I didn't read that one. Can you point me to the source for that?

Re: Lawmakers in France Move to Vastly Expand Surveillance

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Post by mike_hearn »

peteretep wrote: post #90
mike_hearn wrote: post #52

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Well, it's been established beyond doubt that in the USA the FBI basically creates terrorists by finding angry people and putting bombs in their hands (and ensures that they complete the plot that was invented for them, even if they wouldn't have been able to do it themselves). They then use the prevalence of terrorism to justify new powers. That's pretty damn close to what iuyoiuyy is talking about. Razor thin disti…

> it's been established beyond doubt that in the USA the > FBI basically creates terrorists This is where I ask for a citation, and get back one of: nothing, a bunch of links to cancelled false-flag operations from the 1960s, or a bunch of links to websites with name like OPENLIBERTYORG right?

Skepticism is often good, though in this case, unwarranted. Here you go:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/16/howthefbicreat...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/25/isis-material-...

That this keeps happening is well documented. Just read some of the criminal complaints filed by the FBI themselves: the truth is out there, Scully ;)

Re: Lawmakers in France Move to Vastly Expand Surveillance

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Post by tomjen3 »

tajen wrote: post #74
tomjen3 wrote: post #59

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That is okay. I stream Spotify through a VPN try to break that much traffic only to find my playlist.

How expensive is a VPN which lets you stream sevetal Gigs a month with good quality?

Private Internet Access is insanely cheap.

http://www.vpnfan.com/blog/private-internet-access-review/

Re: Lawmakers in France Move to Vastly Expand Surveillance

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Post by zurn »

linkregister wrote: post #101
zurn wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the description was one sided and neglected to mention NSA's VPN related activities. Eg that they actively seek to discover and keep track of VPN users. And that traffic analysis is generally as powerful as content inspection once you have a target.

Hmm, I didn't read that one. Can you point me to the source for that?

Sure:

http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/workspace/nsa-xkeyscore-vpn-...

http://www.hacker10.com/internet-anonymity/secret-documents-...

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