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Launching a weather balloon, a camera and a Raspberry Pi to the stratosphere

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Re: Launching a weather balloon, a camera and a Raspberry Pi to the stratosphere

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Is anyone familiar with materials and cost involved?

I did a flight like this but using Arduino instead of Raspberry Pi (total overkill and power hungry). Full details: http://blog.jgc.org/2011/04/gaga-1-flight.html

Looks more efficient .. with the use of Arduino

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why people don't attach rockets to such balloons? It is a very old idea, yet nobody so far seems to be doing it. Launch from 30km height without atmospheric drag to speak of would make reaching real space much easier. Is there some obstacle for doing it?

Had this idea before. I search on this internet, if recall properly, it's because to get into orbit, you mainly need a good horizontal (parallel to the earth) speed, and the ballon only give a vertical speed. Plus a ballon have lots of frictions and also cannot lift weight rocket. I hope it help a bit. (If a rocket scientist could answer, that would be awesome)

Not a rocket scientist -- but I remember reading this: http://what-if.xkcd.com/58/

You're right, it's about lateral speed.

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why people don't attach rockets to such balloons? It is a very old idea, yet nobody so far seems to be doing it. Launch from 30km height without atmospheric drag to speak of would make reaching real space much easier. Is there some obstacle for doing it?

In the US, it is not legal to drop objects from amateur high altitude balloons. That includes launching projectiles from them. Laws relating to high altitude balloons vary from country to country, so I don't know the reason for people not doing it outside the US. Speaking of laws, at the minimum some things you should probably check before sending up a balloon is your country's laws on: • What notification you have t…

> What methods of communication with the balloon are allowed. Many in the US us GSM cellular devices hooked to GPS units, but from what I've read that it is not legal to use cellular devices from high altitude balloons.

Also worth noting, consumer GPS chips won't work above a certain altitude (or speed for that matter), due to weapons export restrictions to prevent them from being used in missiles, etc

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In the US, it is not legal to drop objects from amateur high altitude balloons. That includes launching projectiles from them. Laws relating to high altitude balloons vary from country to country, so I don't know the reason for people not doing it outside the US. Speaking of laws, at the minimum some things you should probably check before sending up a balloon is your country's laws on: • What notification you have t…

> What methods of communication with the balloon are allowed. Many in the US us GSM cellular devices hooked to GPS units, but from what I've read that it is not legal to use cellular devices from high altitude balloons. Also worth noting, consumer GPS chips won't work above a certain altitude (or speed for that matter), due to weapons export restrictions to prevent them from being used in missiles, etc

Some consumer chips will work. The regulations say they must not work at speeds above 515 m/s and altitudes above 18 km.

Some manufacturers follow the rules as written, and disable if the unit is above the speed limit AND the height limit. Some disable if the unit is above the speed limit OR the height limit.

The former are fine for balloons.

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> The local authorities helped us a lot, the forester aranged the cutting of two trees for us We killed two trees for a 15 minute long youtube video. Is this how little respect we all have for life?

may be cutting 2 trees in general isn't that big a deal in some situations, but looking at the photo it was definitely overkill in that situation - these trees were easily climbable and once up there it would be enough just to cut the branches the payload stuck onto.

Author here, the payload hung about 20 meters ( ~60 feet) above ground, we tried to climb up those trees but couldn't make it up to more than 5 meters. We also lent a ladder, but realized that even a 15 meter ladder is not enough to reach the payload. It's also very dangerous without climbing experience and without any climbing equipment to climb up such trees.

It was the only option for us to cut those trees down, since the wood workers of the town were just a few kilometers away from us. They directly processed the trees to firewood, which they were intended for. :)

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What kind of restrictions are there on airspace use for such project? Airspace might be the wrong word. Is there a chance an aircraft might hit the ballon etc?

In Germany, you need a permit from the authorities (in this case: Regierungspräsidium Freiburg, cost: 30€) and you have to register a weather ballon launch at the German flight control (Deutsche Flugsicherung, cost: free).

Re: Launching a weather balloon, a camera and a Raspberry Pi to the stratosphere

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I did a very similar thing with my group of young volunteer firefighters (also in Germany). We launched a total mass of 500 grams in order to avoid having to get a special permit for this (note: this will change in Germany quite soon!)

We also used a Raspberry Pi Model A+, but recorded 720p video. We powered it using a 9V block battery and regulated the voltage to 5V. Worked like a charm!

Here's some videos and pics: http://www.florianerzons.de/yffzhab/

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Completely forgot. I also wrote some blog posts for anyone asking themselves how this can be done:

http://mactunes.de/posts/2015/2/25/yffzhab---taking-videos-a... http://mactunes.de/posts/2015/3/2/yffzhab---powering-electro... http://mactunes.de/posts/2015/4/6/yffzhab---bill-of-material...

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