Show HN: kiUi – Lightweight auto-layout stylable UI toolkit

Post by marti » Thu, May 07, 2015, 6:47 AM UTC

hugoamnov wrote: post #34

marti wrote: post #27

Many game developers seem to build their own UI libraries from scratch. Wouldn't it make sense to use Chromium Embedded Framework[0] or Awesomium[1] instead? I haven't used them myself (yet), but writing a UI in HTML+CSS sounds a lot easier than learning a new API. [0] https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef [1] http://www.awesomium.com

You are somewhat right in that HTML and CSS heavily inspired what kiUi became. But there are two major concerns that are not adressed by your solution : - Embedding a whole browser in your app just to display a few widgets is not my definition of "lightweight" - Often coding UI in native code (C++) makes a lot more sense, integrate with exiting code in a much cleaner way Game developpers would much less tend to build…

  * Comprehensive feature set
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  * No recompilation required
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Post by statico » Thu, May 07, 2015, 7:19 PM UTC

ocornut wrote: post #42

statico wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gotcha. I ask because, on my machine, kiUi takes 8-9ms every frame regardless of what I'm doing (e.g., typing, dragging windows, resizing things). If I'm trying to maintain 60 FPS with Emscripten, 8-9ms is a significant portion of my 16.7ms frame budget. By comparison, a basic Emscripten libRocket demo takes 6-8ms (mostly due to Freetype rendering and its layout system, see http://forums.librocket.com/viewtopic.php?f…

statico: you can load a different TTF with ImGui, it doesn't have to be monospaced and they can be smooth. The perf differences are due to designing the library with performances as a major pillar, lots of things are optimised. A visual redesign is planned but it'll take a bit of time to get it done to keep the perf up.