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Re: GitHub's down?

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Post by sytse »

SilkRoadie wrote: post #126
danielsamuels wrote: post #95

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So you switched from one central platform to another singular central platform? Am I missing something here?

Our team did something similar after the problems GitHub had when it came under attack a few weeks ago. We have a team of 20 or so and when GitHub becomes unreliable it becomes a big problem for the team. Last week we set up the community edition of GitLab on one of our local servers. We then mirror the repository to GitHub. So far so good. We all like GitHub but after it's recent problems we realised we rely complet…

GitLab CEO here, good to hear your experience with GitLab is good. What solution do you use to mirror the repository?

Re: GitHub's down?

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Post by thom_nic »

coherentpony wrote: post #119
brudgers wrote: post #113

I read about Github being down and know that it sucks for many people. What I find interesting is thinking about how quickly so many installations of distributed version control adopted a de facto central server. Github is a platform that should not need a particularly high uptime from the point of view of any one user. But of course it does because so much of its utility is that it substitutes for a lower level part…

> Github is a platform that should not need a particularly high uptime from the point of view of any one user. This is totally false. GitHub doesn't just provide a git server, it also provides ticketing and project management. When GitHub is down, projects that rely heavily on, for example, commenting on issues grind to a halt. Yes, you don't need GitHub to be up 99.999% of the time to do a `git push` every once in a…

It also acts as the de-facto authentication provider for a ton of third-party hosted services.

I don't know if "login with github" stopped working during this outage but I can imagine the sort of hell if I suddenly couldn't access my PaaS running production infrastructure because it couldn't authenticate my github account.

Re: GitHub's down?

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Post by hn_user2 »

mrsirduke wrote: post #121
gibsonje wrote: post #117

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This is what I don't get. I trust github as a central platform more than hosting my own gitlab in the cloud. There's a lot of people spreading a holier than thou attitude in this thread.

GitHub is a much larger target, and has many, many more moving parts than your average Gitlab on, say, a Linode virtual server. Github will probably have more downtime which you can do noting about, than your selfhosted gitlab, which will probably fail because you upgraded something, or tinkered with a configuration. It's a numbers game. They have more people monitoring, they spend way more money than you do on uptim…

>Github will probably have more downtime which you can do noting about, than your selfhosted gitlab, which will probably fail because you upgraded something, or tinkered with a configuration.

Personally I don't think you will see less downtime on your own server. The difference is, that when it goes down, there is something you can do about it, so you get busy fixing it.

When github is down we get to all get online and talk about our woes together.

The outages are usually pretty short. Go get a coffee and come back, or grab the team and go play a round of bowling. That has to be better than trying to manage and keep secure our own repos.

Re: GitHub's down?

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Post by _1284267234 »

Github is down again! And Slack too. The only page of slack.com that is available is their status page that says: "All's good under the hood, boss! Slack is up and running normally". UTC/GMT 19:06

Re: GitHub's down?

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Post by IE6 »

hn_user2 wrote: post #143
mrsirduke wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitHub is a much larger target, and has many, many more moving parts than your average Gitlab on, say, a Linode virtual server. Github will probably have more downtime which you can do noting about, than your selfhosted gitlab, which will probably fail because you upgraded something, or tinkered with a configuration. It's a numbers game. They have more people monitoring, they spend way more money than you do on uptim…

>Github will probably have more downtime which you can do noting about, than your selfhosted gitlab, which will probably fail because you upgraded something, or tinkered with a configuration. Personally I don't think you will see less downtime on your own server. The difference is, that when it goes down, there is something you can do about it, so you get busy fixing it. When github is down we get to all get online a…

This - the last thing I want to do is be on the line when something happens to our git server and no one can work because our solution is my own custom one-off.

Re: GitHub's down?

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Post by k_bx »

coherentpony wrote: post #119
brudgers wrote: post #113

I read about Github being down and know that it sucks for many people. What I find interesting is thinking about how quickly so many installations of distributed version control adopted a de facto central server. Github is a platform that should not need a particularly high uptime from the point of view of any one user. But of course it does because so much of its utility is that it substitutes for a lower level part…

> Github is a platform that should not need a particularly high uptime from the point of view of any one user. This is totally false. GitHub doesn't just provide a git server, it also provides ticketing and project management. When GitHub is down, projects that rely heavily on, for example, commenting on issues grind to a halt. Yes, you don't need GitHub to be up 99.999% of the time to do a `git push` every once in a…

Our Jenkins is configured to sign-in with GitHub. And yeah, it sucked to not be able to get in. Probably in future it's best to move away to non-Gihub accounts.

Re: GitHub's down?

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Post by johnchristopher »

acdha wrote: post #118
johnchristopher wrote: post #111

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I diaagree on some points: github/git is not an appropriate backup strategy and github is not user friendly enough for non technical people (the default repository page, github pages is another matter).

Do you have any support for those assertions? In particular, the backup claim is rather dubious unless you're redefining “backup” to be a much higher bar than most common answers meet.

Git is a distributed revision control system and designed as such. The fact it can be used as a back-up tool doesn't mean it should be used as a back-up tool, especially when there are back-up solutions designed from the ground to do just that.
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