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Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by arohner » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:27 PM UTC

josephmx wrote: post #20

arohner wrote: post #12

I wasn't planning on announcing yet, but this seems like a good opportunity. I'm working on a service that does real-time monitoring of your website performance, as measured by your actual users, on their browser. If that sounds interesting, my email is in my profile.

This is already included in Analytics

People pay good money for Mixpanel and Kissmetrics, even though Google Analytics exists.

I find GA's UI to be absolutely terrible. I plan on having better UI, more detailed performance breakdown, and alerts / monitoring.

Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by cbr » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:27 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #29

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"Deprecated": we're going to stop supporting this, please move to something else.

"Turned Down": this service will be turned off on 8/3, sites that haven't moved away by then will stop working.

Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by jgrall » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:31 PM UTC

cbr wrote: post #26

Hoping to clear up some confusion: there are three things under the PageSpeed name. * PageSpeed Insights: tells you how to make your website faster and gives you a score. * PageSpeed Modules (mod_pagespeed/ngx_pagespeed): open source web server plugins that rewrite your site to load faster. * PageSpeed Service: Google-hosted proxy version of the PageSpeed Modules. We're only deprecating PageSpeed Service. (I'm the TL…

Thanks for the clarification. I use PageSpeed via a couple of App Engine apps that have it enabled directly from App Engine's admin dashboard. I never had to change any DNS settings to get it to work. Does this shutdown also mean that PageSpeed will no longer be offered for App Engine apps? Do I need to take any action to avoid a service interruption for my users?

Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by cbr » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:38 PM UTC

jgrall wrote: post #33

cbr wrote: post #26

Hoping to clear up some confusion: there are three things under the PageSpeed name. * PageSpeed Insights: tells you how to make your website faster and gives you a score. * PageSpeed Modules (mod_pagespeed/ngx_pagespeed): open source web server plugins that rewrite your site to load faster. * PageSpeed Service: Google-hosted proxy version of the PageSpeed Modules. We're only deprecating PageSpeed Service. (I'm the TL…

Thanks for the clarification. I use PageSpeed via a couple of App Engine apps that have it enabled directly from App Engine's admin dashboard. I never had to change any DNS settings to get it to work. Does this shutdown also mean that PageSpeed will no longer be offered for App Engine apps? Do I need to take any action to avoid a service interruption for my users?

Yes, App Engine support is also deprecated:

     If you are using PageSpeed integration on Google App
     Engine, it will continue to function until 1st
     December 2015, after which PageSpeed optimizations
     will no-longer be applied to your app. No action is
     required on the part of App Engine users; after this
     date apps will continue to operate, except without
     the benefit of the PageSpeed optimizations.

App Engine users only need to take action if they have something on their site that depends on PageSpeed, which is very uncommon.

Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by toephu2 » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:44 PM UTC

arohner wrote: post #31

josephmx wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is already included in Analytics

People pay good money for Mixpanel and Kissmetrics, even though Google Analytics exists. I find GA's UI to be absolutely terrible. I plan on having better UI, more detailed performance breakdown, and alerts / monitoring.

I actually find GA's UI pretty good. Much better than Flurry analytics for example.

Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by derefr » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:45 PM UTC

chambo622 wrote: post #3

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #2

Point of clarification - this isn't the Page Speed testing, but their "optimizing proxy" that you'd route your site through (like Cloudflare).

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't even realize they offered this - CloudFlare really seems to dominate the narrative in this area.

They didn't offer it, really; new signups had been closed for a long time now.

Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by sergiotapia » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:45 PM UTC

arohner wrote: post #12

I wasn't planning on announcing yet, but this seems like a good opportunity. I'm working on a service that does real-time monitoring of your website performance, as measured by your actual users, on their browser. If that sounds interesting, my email is in my profile.

send me an email sergiotapia@outlook.com

Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by jccooper » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:47 PM UTC

foolinaround wrote: post #13

Not sure if I should be using Google for anything except search ( pretty much most of my eggs are in the google basket )

Certainly anything that's not a core Google product you should think hard about using. I got burned when they shut down Checkout. They gave me six months notice on that, which was just barely enough to replace shopping cart, order management, and payment processing. The first two I now have in house, so no one can turn them off.

At least this one's fairly easy to fix, but I think there will be plenty of people unpleasantly surprised on 3 Aug.

Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by snowwrestler » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:48 PM UTC

pixelbath wrote: post #17

Kiro wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: besides Google Reader, what has Google terminated that people actually used?

From personal experience: Search API: used to be able to submit keywords and get XML results back, now it's AJAX-only and spits out formatted HTML, only 10 results, and different from real search results. Mostly useful for people involved in SEO. No big loss without it, but just means you have to scrape SERPs instead of getting them nicely bundled up. Desktop: I used it for a while, then found Everything ( http://www…

The Voice app on iOS went for years without an update, but it was updated fairly recently to match iOS 7 aesthetics.

I think the plan with Voice is to keep the functionality, but move it into the Hangouts product/app.

Re: Google Ends Page Speed Service

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Post by derefr » Wed, May 06, 2015, 5:50 PM UTC

wahsd wrote: post #23

91bananas wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail and "Google" aren't going anywhere.

I am guessing you don't mean that Gmail hasn't really progressed in many years now. Sure, they've bolted on features and functionality, but they have also probably intentionally delayed or been distracted from adding real value because e.g., it would have competed or distracted from other projects like G+ by, e.g., improving the contacts view, which is really rather unusable. Another issue that bothers the hell out o…

Gmail progressed; it progressed so far people probably wouldn't like it if it was changed out from under them (like with New Coke) so they called the progression Inbox instead.