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Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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Re: Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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I can relate to this. I left San Francisco a few weeks ago and moved to South Carolina. I love software development, and I'm not sure if I can trade it for anything at this point and time in my life. I'm currently working remotely from South Carolina and in the search for a nice house with some land, so I can live a bit more rural while still being able to do what I love.

Same here, although I picked the west coast of Florida near Tampa.

Re: Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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Not to question this guy's remarkable decision or the article itself, just one expression I see quit often and makes me cringe each time, that is : the real world (referred here as a little haven of nature). Is the 19th century Industrial revolution just an illusion, the factories, the cars, the towns, the wars just a view of the spirit, and the little birds singing in the trees the real world ? Is the current (elect…

I believe the distinction suggested is not real vs imaginary, but real vs constructed. I think it's a reasonable point. One of the useful tests for "realness" is what lasts, what is sustained without human effort. Artificial environments are in some sense a fantasy made real. Sufficiently advanced technologies are indistinguishable from magic because we are always trying to construct our dreams. Our civilization is i…

One of the useful tests for "realness" is what lasts

What? This ismeaningless, and obviously false if you just think about it for one second. Please see my reply to tsunamifury above.

Re: Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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I'm in. Not at all joking / exaggerating. My wife and I would love something like this. We are currently looking to switch cities with no specific desire for one place so the iron is hot. I'd not limit it to engineers though -- just makers in general.

There seems to be enough interest in this to actually start talking seriously about it. I created a Slack account for it. https://farmcombinator.slack.com/ You'll need an invite, so if you're interested in this sort of thing seek me out on Twitter (@ccallebs) or send me your email (chuck@callebs.io).

Sent you an email ;)

Re: Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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I'm in. Not at all joking / exaggerating. My wife and I would love something like this. We are currently looking to switch cities with no specific desire for one place so the iron is hot. I'd not limit it to engineers though -- just makers in general.

There seems to be enough interest in this to actually start talking seriously about it. I created a Slack account for it. https://farmcombinator.slack.com/ You'll need an invite, so if you're interested in this sort of thing seek me out on Twitter (@ccallebs) or send me your email (chuck@callebs.io).

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Re: Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and this post definitely gives me some motivation. I'm a programmer who loves to code and build stuff, learning new programming languages and frameworks, discussing about architecture, etc. I love shipping new features and making customers happy. BUT inside of me a desire has been growing to go back to the roots, to live a life closer to the nature. I feel the need to spend…

looks like you are getting some positive feedback with this idea! If it pushes you to act on it, please let me know. I'd love to participate in something like this.

Looks like the user ccalebs has created a Slack board for sharing ideas: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492884

Re: Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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The fact that people think dogs have higher intrinsic value than pigs, and hence deserve more rights, is based on completely arbitrary characteristics. The proof of that is that dogs are seen as food in some cultures, cows are seen as sacred in others, etc. It's all part of belief systems that, in most cases, are inherited without being questioned. I have no idea if she has spent time within family farms, but I would…

The fact that people think dogs have higher intrinsic value than pigs, and hence deserve more rights, is based on completely arbitrary characteristics. The proof of that is that dogs are seen as food in some cultures, cows are seen as sacred in others, etc. It's all part of belief systems that, in most cases, are inherited without being questioned. The fact that the reasons are different doesn't mean they're arbitrar…

I think it's clear that many, if not most, are not arbitrary - which doesn't mean they are well supported; not everything is valid just because it has some reason behind it.

The definition of arbitrary is "having no reason behind it". Sure, judging whether a particular classification counts as "arbitrary" is hard because the definition of "arbitrary" is squishy. But what you just said amounts to:

It's not arbitrary. It might be arbitrary, but it's not arbitrary.

Re: Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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looks like you are getting some positive feedback with this idea! If it pushes you to act on it, please let me know. I'd love to participate in something like this.

Looks like the user ccalebs has created a Slack board for sharing ideas: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9492884

Thanks, I just got an invite and joined the slack group.

Re: Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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No, it's not arbitrary at all, it's just subjective and depends on your personal relation with the animal. Frankly, that video sounds like BS to me. How much time did she spend within family farms that raise animals? The idea that you need "invisibility" or to abstract animals as non-individual or as objects is so untrue it's not even funny.

The fact that people think dogs have higher intrinsic value than pigs, and hence deserve more rights, is based on completely arbitrary characteristics. The proof of that is that dogs are seen as food in some cultures, cows are seen as sacred in others, etc. It's all part of belief systems that, in most cases, are inherited without being questioned. I have no idea if she has spent time within family farms, but I would…

The fact that people think dogs have higher intrinsic value than pigs, and hence deserve more rights, is based on completely arbitrary characteristics

Dogs are a bad example. Dogs have been our companions for tens of thousands of years. They have been so because they are useful to us -- we have developed a symbiotic relationship. Dogs understand us and are attuned to our emotions to a much higher degree than any other non-human animal. I wouldn't say it's arbitrary to place a higher intrinsic value on dogs than pigs.

Don't get me wrong, I don't claim that as justification of anything. I'm a vegan. I just don't think something has to be arbitrary to be wrong.

Re: Death of a Programmer, Life of a Farmer

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I have this feeling that kids tend to hate where they grow up due to all of the perceived failings and things they're missing out on. I grew up in a relaxed beach town in Florida, and hated it. My family all moved from NYC and fell in love in a heartbeat. Something about not being in the same place for too long applies here, too.

I grew up in a relaxed beach town in Florida (Venice), and I liked it pretty well--but all of my peers hated it. "There's nothing to do here." I just thought "seriously? We have everything but a theme park." Go carts, beaches, movies, skating rinks, arcades, everything! I've since learned that kids say that no matter where they live, seemingly.

I grew up in Flint, MI in the 80s. We didn't just think it was the worst place in the country to live – Rand McNally actually rated it as the worst place in the country to live!

But teen angst aside, I got a really good education, and had a lot of fun and opportunities growing up. (I actually lived in the suburbs of Flint and my family was middle class, so that probably helped.) I hated it at the time, but I can see the good and the bad now that I'm removed from it. I don't think I could ever go back, but there were positives despite its problems.

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