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Re: Microsoft Announces Azure Stack

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Post by sunananth_MSFT »

h43k3r wrote: post #5

Can anybody explain me in layman terms what this means? I understand that Azure is Microsoft's Cloud Platform that provides services through which you can deploy your application on cloud. Does this mean that you can run Azure on your own datacenter like Microsoft is doing currently?

I'm a product manager with Microsoft.

With the Azure Stack, you can deploy your applications on your on-premises (private) cloud, just like you would do in Azure - you're essentially retargeting the app. Our ultimate goal is to empower maximum application agility.

To enable the same deployment experience, Microsoft is bringing the same Azure portal, user experience framework, and underlying IaaS/PaaS APIs and services to your on-premises environments. We're also being thoughtful in which services we bring on-premises so that enterprise customers get maximum value.

We want to enable our customers and partners to run Azure in their datacenter in a way that's appropriate to their business requirements. We understand that not everybody operates at the hyper-scale that Microsoft does - as such, we will translate Microsoft's cloud designs and bring them to customers so it's easy to consume while enhancing flexibility and security in datacenter operations.

Re: Microsoft Announces Azure Stack

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Post by sunananth_MSFT »

sunananth_MSFT wrote: post #21
h43k3r wrote: post #5

Can anybody explain me in layman terms what this means? I understand that Azure is Microsoft's Cloud Platform that provides services through which you can deploy your application on cloud. Does this mean that you can run Azure on your own datacenter like Microsoft is doing currently?

I'm a product manager with Microsoft. With the Azure Stack, you can deploy your applications on your on-premises (private) cloud, just like you would do in Azure - you're essentially retargeting the app. Our ultimate goal is to empower maximum application agility. To enable the same deployment experience, Microsoft is bringing the same Azure portal, user experience framework, and underlying IaaS/PaaS APIs and service…

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/azure-i... - go hear to learn more about our vision.

Re: Microsoft Announces Azure Stack

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

devicenull wrote: post #13
BF179580656B wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is on par with Linux and BSD machines. Until you are reading all the source code, there's no point in switching to Linux or BSD if you're already using Microsoft. Microsoft has the best and robust tools for the job.

Not quite... when I run into an issue with my Linux machine, I can trace the code all the way down to the kernel. When I run into a problem with my Windows machine, I have to resort to random searches and hoping that someone else has seen it.

> I can trace the code all the way down to the kernel.

Maybe you can but do you? This requires not only figuring out how to compile your ENTIRE stack but also doing it AND figuring out how to debug each piece (since generic debugging tools are not the best). I understand there may be major issues that require this level of insanity but the rarity is so incredibly high and so few have enough domain knowledge to do it effectively that I don't buy this argument at all.

Re: Microsoft Announces Azure Stack

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Post by charlesnw »

sunananth_MSFT wrote: post #21
h43k3r wrote: post #5

Can anybody explain me in layman terms what this means? I understand that Azure is Microsoft's Cloud Platform that provides services through which you can deploy your application on cloud. Does this mean that you can run Azure on your own datacenter like Microsoft is doing currently?

I'm a product manager with Microsoft. With the Azure Stack, you can deploy your applications on your on-premises (private) cloud, just like you would do in Azure - you're essentially retargeting the app. Our ultimate goal is to empower maximum application agility. To enable the same deployment experience, Microsoft is bringing the same Azure portal, user experience framework, and underlying IaaS/PaaS APIs and service…

This is great news. Thank you very much for the explanation.

Will I be able to "burst" from on premise into Azure in this model? I'm in the process of deploying cloudstack/Ubuntu MAAS now for my on premise (and generally longer duration deployment) needs and using Azure for when I need rapid setup/teardown or a large amount of capacity (on demand).

If I could have one stack locally and in "the cloud", I would be VERY happy (especially if it's all tied in with AD, federated etc).

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Post by Sanddancer »

h43k3r wrote: post #5

Can anybody explain me in layman terms what this means? I understand that Azure is Microsoft's Cloud Platform that provides services through which you can deploy your application on cloud. Does this mean that you can run Azure on your own datacenter like Microsoft is doing currently?

Yes. I have a housemate who is doing a rather interesting project with Azure at his workplace. Can't give any more real solid details than that, but Azure is essentially more open than AWS in the terms of giving the source of the special sauce it provides.

Re: Microsoft Announces Azure Stack

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Post by mobiplayer »

cies wrote: post #11

Dear MS. Thanks for going open source with dotNet. We will use it on our Linuxes and BSDs, with gratitude and joy. But when it comes to your intention of bringing your non-open-source'ed software to our data centers: we were actually almost finished taking them out, and feel much better that way.

Dude, if there's one thing in abundance in a DC is non-open-source software. Can't imagine many DCs without one of these: Cisco, Juniper, Checkpoint, VMWare, Microsoft, Dell/HP on ILO/DRAC, F5 or Brocade; you effing name it. Your network, your SAN, all your effing data, everything! goes through some non-open-source'ed software stack. Oh yes, and let's not forget about all your NIC drivers for starters.

Re: Microsoft Announces Azure Stack

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Post by devicenull »

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #20
devicenull wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite... when I run into an issue with my Linux machine, I can trace the code all the way down to the kernel. When I run into a problem with my Windows machine, I have to resort to random searches and hoping that someone else has seen it.

What percentage of Linux users do you think have the capability or the desire to spend their time tracing calls through various libraries and kernel source? When I run into a problem on my Linux machine, I typically have to do a lot of searching. More searching than I must do with Windows, because while there is generally only one Windows (at least relative to Linux), there are hundreds of Linuxes, distros and versio…

Who said anything about average linux users?

We're talking about a product designed to be run on multiple servers, in a datacenter. At that level, you're generally talking about professionals.

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