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What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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This is standard fare for any police department ever. It took me about 4 months to get my phone back from the NYPD, which was fun. I love it when white people are shocked by their first arrest, because it (unfortunately) means something might get done. The system sucks. Now please scare other white people about it.

Hn has no place for racists. Go somewhere else if you want to blame any racial group.

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Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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If you work in IT I am sure it can be arranged. It will take a bit of time though. Get a job with a EU based company (in the Schengen agreement), but in their local office to you. Work for a couple of years there. Then get a transfer to one of their EU offices. Work there for a number of years. Apply for citizenship. The process is of course more complicated than that and dependent in which country you pick, but that…

I think part of it is that in Italy, and I'd guess in Germany too... well, we have "being a police state" in living memory, so nobody wants to start being THOSE guys again. It keeps police-state tactics in check. I'm Italian, moved to the US a few years back.

Well then it is easy for you, if you have an Italian passport.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Perhaps it time someone built a web site where the opinions, comments, and especially actions/votes, of every politician running for office, from City Council on up, were tracked. Scoring the politicians based on their support for the constitution and especially human rights, plus encouraging the vote, could fix this after just an election cycle or two.

Close to this is who's paying for their opinion, and there's a browser plug-in for that: http://allaregreen.us

Plug-ins are nice for us concerned techno-citizens, but most people don't care and it won't change things directly that fast. I think the media needs to do its job of informing us rather than entertaining us, and schools need to train vigilant citizens rather than compliant ones.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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"My arresting officer walked me out the door and down the street past the barricade, where there were volunteers from New York Lawyers Guild waiting to provide information on legal resources, as well as donuts and coffee." That must've been a sight of relief. What a horrible experience everyone had to go through. This is nothing short of intimidation tactic.

I don't know how I feel about that. I mean on the one hand, it feels like ambulance chasing, but on the other, they're providing the exact thing everyone leaving those cells needed. Food, drink, legal advice. Do you think turf wars start with competing law-firms over that spot?

It's nothing like ambulance chasing.

Their work is pro-bono and the engagement technically starts a bit earlier than leaving jail. The lawyers guild is also the group that fields observers to record what demonstrators/police have actually done in protests.

Also the coffee/donuts are usually a separate set of people, lay volunteers up in the middle of the night trying to keep track of people to make sure they're processed quickly enough, or to give them said coffee/donut or a couple of bucks to catch the subway home. The keyword you're looking for is "jail support" http://organizingforpower.org/jail-support-solidarity/

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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If you work in IT I am sure it can be arranged. It will take a bit of time though. Get a job with a EU based company (in the Schengen agreement), but in their local office to you. Work for a couple of years there. Then get a transfer to one of their EU offices. Work there for a number of years. Apply for citizenship. The process is of course more complicated than that and dependent in which country you pick, but that…

I think part of it is that in Italy, and I'd guess in Germany too... well, we have "being a police state" in living memory, so nobody wants to start being THOSE guys again. It keeps police-state tactics in check. I'm Italian, moved to the US a few years back.

Well, Italians aren't just very patient at organising - so police will deal with those situations more impulsively:

"Once arrested, protesters, including five Britons, were taken to a police barracks where they were beaten again, sprayed with asphyxiating gas, threatened with rape and forced to sing fascist-era songs."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/feb/12/night-police-be...

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is standard fare for any police department ever. It took me about 4 months to get my phone back from the NYPD, which was fun. I love it when white people are shocked by their first arrest, because it (unfortunately) means something might get done. The system sucks. Now please scare other white people about it.

"I love it when white people ..." It's unclear to me why race has anything to do with this. Are you implying that you expect non-white people to handle "their first arrest" more casually, as if it is something they are familiar with and know will happen? If we really want things to improve, we need to stop complaining about how "white people don't see how bad it is for the rest of us." Focus on what we have in common…

1791: Haitian slaves ask very nicely to be freed and are immediately liberated by all those reasonable white people.

https://thenib.com/great-moments-in-peaceful-protest-history...

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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NYPD needs to be disbanded. If you have officers repeating the same conduct one just got charged with depraved heart murder for, it's out of control. This stuff is simple enough. Get out of your escort, stand among the other normal people and do some dogfooding of the police experience. I guess nobody higher up wants to spend the day doing that, because at the end of it there wouldn't be anyone still employed at NYPD…

Your comment provoked a lot of discussion here, but no one's mentioned the more alarming behavior during that time: changing arrest patterns as a form of protest.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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From what I've read, there had been plenty of warnings all day. >The group was on East 17th Street about halfway down the block when police took a stand and ordered protesters to get on the sidewalk. Before the march, while the group was in Union Square, police handed out flyers and used loudspeakers to warn protesters that they would be arrested if they didn't stay on the sidewalk. http://7online.com/news/more-than-…

The right to peaceable assembly in the First Amendment of the Constitution SHOULD mean that the government cannot require a permit to do so (otherwise, it wouldn't be a RIGHT). If a large number of people want to get from point A to point B, even on foot, an accommodation of normal traffic laws should be made to allow that. Why the hell are police arresting peaceful protestors?

Preach. There is effectively no right to assemble.
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