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Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by kw71 »

revelation wrote: post #9

NYPD needs to be disbanded. If you have officers repeating the same conduct one just got charged with depraved heart murder for, it's out of control. This stuff is simple enough. Get out of your escort, stand among the other normal people and do some dogfooding of the police experience. I guess nobody higher up wants to spend the day doing that, because at the end of it there wouldn't be anyone still employed at NYPD…

When they expressed insubordination by turning their backs on the Mayor, that signalled to me that they have no respect for authority. This is exactly the kind of people that do not belong on a police force. I can't imagine why they weren't all fired. They certainly don't deserve any of the respect that they get, nor their pensions.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by icelancer »

kw71 wrote: post #11
revelation wrote: post #9

NYPD needs to be disbanded. If you have officers repeating the same conduct one just got charged with depraved heart murder for, it's out of control. This stuff is simple enough. Get out of your escort, stand among the other normal people and do some dogfooding of the police experience. I guess nobody higher up wants to spend the day doing that, because at the end of it there wouldn't be anyone still employed at NYPD…

When they expressed insubordination by turning their backs on the Mayor, that signalled to me that they have no respect for authority. This is exactly the kind of people that do not belong on a police force. I can't imagine why they weren't all fired. They certainly don't deserve any of the respect that they get, nor their pensions.

What? They are allowed to express their right to free speech and expression as well, just as the protestors should be able to.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by AnkhMorporkian »

revelation wrote: post #9

NYPD needs to be disbanded. If you have officers repeating the same conduct one just got charged with depraved heart murder for, it's out of control. This stuff is simple enough. Get out of your escort, stand among the other normal people and do some dogfooding of the police experience. I guess nobody higher up wants to spend the day doing that, because at the end of it there wouldn't be anyone still employed at NYPD…

Two officers supposedly do this, so therefore the NYPD needs to be disbanded? There's plenty wrong with the NYPD, but that doesn't follow at all.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by wheaties »

spodek wrote: post #10

> for every one of the 120+ of us in holding, there was also a cop who was waiting there too, being paid overtime and trying to get our paperwork processed so that they could go home Cops being paid overtime is a tremendous conflict of interest motivating them to arrest and to process slowly.

I doubt very seriously that any cop does not find the manual paper entry and time wasted a good thing. More than likely they wanted to go home just as bad as the "perps."

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by privong »

icelancer wrote: post #12
kw71 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they expressed insubordination by turning their backs on the Mayor, that signalled to me that they have no respect for authority. This is exactly the kind of people that do not belong on a police force. I can't imagine why they weren't all fired. They certainly don't deserve any of the respect that they get, nor their pensions.

What? They are allowed to express their right to free speech and expression as well, just as the protestors should be able to.

Yes, they should be free to express their opinions. But free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. One could make a case that that sort of behavior could be considered insubordination and grounds for termination.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by mapt »

icelancer wrote: post #12
kw71 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they expressed insubordination by turning their backs on the Mayor, that signalled to me that they have no respect for authority. This is exactly the kind of people that do not belong on a police force. I can't imagine why they weren't all fired. They certainly don't deserve any of the respect that they get, nor their pensions.

What? They are allowed to express their right to free speech and expression as well, just as the protestors should be able to.

There are limits. You probably wouldn't object to a police officer being fired when it's discovered they have 5,000 posts on Stormfront expressing solidarity for their Aryan brothers in their struggle against multicultural impurity.

These police officers expressed contempt in an organized, planned way for anyone who would hold police officers accountable for murders committed on the job. They essentially declared that they expect 100% support from their boss in the executive branch, no matter the illegality of their conduct, and committed to staging a standing strike in protest, and to publicly shunning their boss at a funeral. It's a power play that a nation of rights & laws cannot permit, if it wants to remain one.

You know what? We can find other people to be police officers. Ones which aren't so abusive of the people they're supposed to be serving, and so privileged to a lack of consequences for this abuse, that they're on the edge of a coup against the elected civilian government.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by HarryHirsch »

icelancer wrote: post #12
kw71 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they expressed insubordination by turning their backs on the Mayor, that signalled to me that they have no respect for authority. This is exactly the kind of people that do not belong on a police force. I can't imagine why they weren't all fired. They certainly don't deserve any of the respect that they get, nor their pensions.

What? They are allowed to express their right to free speech and expression as well, just as the protestors should be able to.

Are you serious? Members of the police force are prevented from to expressing their opinion while in uniform, they are sworn to duty. If they do it anyway, that way lie the Freikorps of the Weimar Republic. As the grandparent says, these guys need the equivalent of a dishonourable discharge.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by kw71 »

icelancer wrote: post #12
kw71 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When they expressed insubordination by turning their backs on the Mayor, that signalled to me that they have no respect for authority. This is exactly the kind of people that do not belong on a police force. I can't imagine why they weren't all fired. They certainly don't deserve any of the respect that they get, nor their pensions.

What? They are allowed to express their right to free speech and expression as well, just as the protestors should be able to.

What would you expect would happen to you if you made such a brazen, public display of disrespect against your executive management? Would you have your job after?

They certainly could have gone on strike, when they were not on the clock.

Re: What happens after you’re arrested at a protest in New York

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Post by Hobotron1 »

mapt wrote: post #16
icelancer wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? They are allowed to express their right to free speech and expression as well, just as the protestors should be able to.

There are limits. You probably wouldn't object to a police officer being fired when it's discovered they have 5,000 posts on Stormfront expressing solidarity for their Aryan brothers in their struggle against multicultural impurity. These police officers expressed contempt in an organized, planned way for anyone who would hold police officers accountable for murders committed on the job. They essentially declared tha…

> We can find other people to be police officers.

Can we though? I sure as shit don't want to be one.

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