Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Grooveshark Shuts Down

grooveshark.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–190 of 283 posts

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#181

Post by 13 »

colordrops wrote: post #179
13 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is this blind obsession with "THIS NEEDS A BLOCKCHAIN!!!!!!!"? There's nothing, absolutely nothing, in a system of storing playlists which needs decentralized canonical ordering. A blockchain is literally one of the most inefficient ways of storing data imaginable, and serves no purpose here other than a buzz word.

> There's nothing, absolutely nothing No, there is something. You could use the blockchain as a decentralized torrent tracker.

Why on earth does that need canonical ordering.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#182

Post by nfoz »

zzalpha wrote: post #104
chimeracoder wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, but when it comes to libraries there's a public-good element to their activities, as they provide access to those materials for those who otherwise may not be able to afford them. How is that any different from free services like Grooveshark, The Pirate Bay, Napster, etc.?

I really need to explain to you that the poor don't generally have computers? Or internet access? :)

You might be surprised how many poor do have computer/internet access. Different regions look different, even within the U.S., and there are many different modalities of living amongst the poor.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#183

Post by nfoz »

acdha wrote: post #118
icebraining wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlicensed, not illegal.

My dictionary defines illegal as “contrary to or forbidden by law”. If you're distributing material without permission it's still illegal even if you stick your fingers in your ears while loudly shouting “na na na I can't hear you!”

Perhaps pedantic, but "fair use" usage of a work would fall under "unlicensed but legal".

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#185

Post by adm_hn »

sebastianavina wrote: post #87
ignoramous wrote: post #65

This makes me immensely sad as a long time user of Grooveshark. Such contrast in fortunes when you compare YouTube [0] and Grooveshark. Grooveshark, for most part, was an amazing service. They were at the forefront of UI design, brilliant at surfacing new and related content (music), excellent at quality of service (variable bit-rate buffering). You would think that with a good exit to a company like Yahoo or Amazon,…

I used grooveshark, but now streamer extension on chrome is a better option. youtube has all the music anyway

can you provide a link please? The search for "streamer" on chrome extensions results in many products.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#186

Post by Zardoz84 »

Oh, shit ! And now I lost my favourite music lists without possibility of recovering. I had some music there that I can't find in other places. Great..... If they could allow to recover these lists (Author - Song) on text. You are doing "good bye" in a way that a lot of user would hate.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#187

Post by klunger »

noonespecial wrote: post #137
Syrup-tan wrote: post #12

The site is just an image with small text, so I've transcribed it here; --- Dear music fans, Today we are shutting down Grooveshark. We started out nearly ten years ago with the goal of helping fans share and discover music. But despite the best of intentions, we made very serious mistakes. We failed to secure licenses from rights holders for the vast amount of music on the service. That was wrong. We apologize. With…

"If you love music and respect the artists, songwriters and everyone else who makes great music possible, use a licensed service that compensates artists and other rights holders." It seems so easy compensate that second group that I work harder breathing each day. That first group, it seems like I could get a message to mars easier than to send them a whole dollar.

Yes. I have high hopes for Patreon and similar services to change this though.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#188

Post by Garthex »

beagle3 wrote: post #149
BoppreH wrote: post #138

I discovered it a few minutes ago because I had just purchased a Premium Spotify license and opened Grooveshark to export my collections. All my favorite songs, albums and bands were listed there, and only there. I used Grooveshark for a few years, and enjoyed it. Thank you for that. But also fuck you. Throwing away data like that is unforgivable for a service. Imagine Facebook disappearing with your list of friends,…

> Imagine Facebook disappearing with your list of friends, or Google Docs with your documents. Yes, I imagine it on a daily basis. That's how the cloud works. It's happened before, and it will happen again. Any cloud based data is bound to disappear at any second because of a hack (ask Matt Hunan), because of a court order you are not aware of, because of an in-court-or-out-of-court settlement you are not part of and…

I learned that the hard way a month ago when I found that all my photos from the past 6 years that I had been storing on Dropbox had been mysteriously deleted :(

Storing != backing up

Still trying to let go of ever having those visual memories again. Certainly you're right that it's no one's fault but our own, but that doesn't make the lose any easier to deal with. I do blame Dropbox though, considering I'm a paying customer. When it happened I saw that the actual backup feature costs extra.

Dropbox may be a ok syncing service but it's a pretty shitty backup service given any collaborators can delete your files. Suffice it to say I'll be backing up locally and finding an alternative to Dropbox.

(Sort of a tangent/rant/vent there, but if anyone has a recommendation for cloud backups I'd love to hear.)

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#190

Post by Kiro »

cotix wrote: post #178
Kiro wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting downvoted but my opinion stands: being a musician is not a job and you can't expect to get paid for it. It would be like expecting to get paid for playing video games. Making music is a leisure activity and a very rewarding one. Thinking you should make a living on it is just greedy. Get a normal job and create music for its own sake.

You can, infact, make a living with playing video games. I wonder how you would feel if I said developing is a big hobby of mine, a leisure activity, and a very rewarding one actually. You should not make money from that, get a real job, and practice your development hobby for its own sake.

Yes, I know you can. Just as you can make money making music. The important word here is "can". You are not however entitled to it. A lucky few gets paid but that's an extreme privilege you shouldn't take for granted.

The difference with development is that no-one questions the business model. You code and get paid for it while music is a completely different story. Before I became a professional developer I coded for fun and was happy with that. If the market would be like music (where 99% of artists cannot make a living out of it) then yes, I would say exactly that.

Post reply on HN