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Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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post #95

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Would you have a problem with it if they gave it away for free (and didn't have to worry about covering their operating costs, via a deus ex machina?) That's a good question... I honestly don't know! I'd definitely have less of a problem with it... which is, I realize, pretty dumb as that doesn't alleviate the harm to the artists. About the only intellectual justification I can come up with is that, as a free service…

> I'd definitely have less of a problem with it... which is, I realize, pretty dumb as that doesn't alleviate the harm to the artists. > About the only intellectual justification I can come up with is that, as a free service, it's easier to position something like that as a way to discover artists. I think, by selling a subscription, their customers would be more likely to view their consumption as legitimate, and so…

Yeah, but when it comes to libraries there's a public-good element to their activities, as they provide access to those materials for those who otherwise may not be able to afford them.

In addition, a library, as a source of physical copies, can't lend and re-lend the same content over and over. Which is why, of course, ebook lending programs at libraries are often limited to a certain number of copies... there's an attempt to apply that same restriction to digital content.

Lastly, the lending is always time-limited, unlike digital services.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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> I'd definitely have less of a problem with it... which is, I realize, pretty dumb as that doesn't alleviate the harm to the artists. > About the only intellectual justification I can come up with is that, as a free service, it's easier to position something like that as a way to discover artists. I think, by selling a subscription, their customers would be more likely to view their consumption as legitimate, and so…

Yeah, but when it comes to libraries there's a public-good element to their activities, as they provide access to those materials for those who otherwise may not be able to afford them. In addition, a library, as a source of physical copies, can't lend and re-lend the same content over and over. Which is why, of course, ebook lending programs at libraries are often limited to a certain number of copies... there's an…

> Yeah, but when it comes to libraries there's a public-good element to their activities, as they provide access to those materials for those who otherwise may not be able to afford them.

How is that any different from free services like Grooveshark, The Pirate Bay, Napster, etc.?

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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post #96

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No, there are laws that protect taxi companies and their drivers, and laws that protect music artists . Don't mistake "big music" as being the only beneficiaries of copyright law. That's simply demagoguery.

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Quite frankly - yes, they are the beneficiaries. Independent artists absolutely do not benefit from copyright law at all.

Wow... I just...

I don't even know how to argue against that. It's demonstrably false and patently absurd.

You honestly believe no indie musician has benefited from copyright law?

Seriously?

Do you understand how compulsory licensing works? Do you really believe no indie artist has ever collected royalties on their music?

I'm honestly baffled at this point.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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Yeah, but when it comes to libraries there's a public-good element to their activities, as they provide access to those materials for those who otherwise may not be able to afford them. In addition, a library, as a source of physical copies, can't lend and re-lend the same content over and over. Which is why, of course, ebook lending programs at libraries are often limited to a certain number of copies... there's an…

> Yeah, but when it comes to libraries there's a public-good element to their activities, as they provide access to those materials for those who otherwise may not be able to afford them. How is that any different from free services like Grooveshark, The Pirate Bay, Napster, etc.?

I really need to explain to you that the poor don't generally have computers? Or internet access? :)

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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So, the music industry most likely now has all the information about everyone who used GrooveShark. What are the chances they start suing uploaders, or even just heavy users?

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#106
post #99

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That sounds like a lovely time, would make a great book or movie. Personally I'd never really even heard of it except a long time ago, let alone used it. Nothing personal. Just one music service in a dense forest of same. That said, I'm of the opinion that a public Radio station and Library should be the model for transmission and curation of works. The shutting down of Grooveshark fills me with sonder, wonder, and s…

Directed by Martin Scorcese.

Produced by Grooveshark Production Company !

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#107
SeeqPod paved the way for Grooveshark and Spotify and was one of the first streaming search engines. They got acquired by Sony and that could still be an option for Grooveshark.

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#108
I loved Grooveshark, but I knew from day one it was only a matter of time until their legal issues would catch up to them.

Loved the service though.

Every time they shut down a service like this 5 more pop up, so everyone will just start using the next incarnation.

Introducing Sharkster!

Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

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post #81

The site is just an image with small text, so I've transcribed it here; --- Dear music fans, Today we are shutting down Grooveshark. We started out nearly ten years ago with the goal of helping fans share and discover music. But despite the best of intentions, we made very serious mistakes. We failed to secure licenses from rights holders for the vast amount of music on the service. That was wrong. We apologize. With…

First Groovy gets its development funding pulled and hosting infrastructure shut down, now 3 months later Grooveshark does the same. It's not a good year for anything named Groov * in the startup space!

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Re: Grooveshark Shuts Down

#110

The site is just an image with small text, so I've transcribed it here; --- Dear music fans, Today we are shutting down Grooveshark. We started out nearly ten years ago with the goal of helping fans share and discover music. But despite the best of intentions, we made very serious mistakes. We failed to secure licenses from rights holders for the vast amount of music on the service. That was wrong. We apologize. With…

So, how long until the record companies go after others with those patents?

I'm betting the wheels are already in motion.

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