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Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

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Re: Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

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post #9

Hopefully they will also introduce a standard and free way to get SSL certificates. I do not like the idea of having to buy new certificates every year (and all the hassle that comes with installing the certificates) just to maintain a very basic website.

https://letsencrypt.org/

which will be great when it finally exists

Re: Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

#22
I should be happy about this -- who wouldn't want the entire web to be encrypted -- but SSL is so broken for normal people. SSL is expensive (wildcard certificates run $70 a year and up), confusing (how does one pick between the 200 different companies selling certificates?), and incredibly difficult to set up (what order should I cat the certificate pieces in again?).

If SSL doesn't change, this move will cut the little folks out of the internet. What are Mozilla's values?

Re: Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

#23

I should be happy about this -- who wouldn't want the entire web to be encrypted -- but SSL is so broken for normal people. SSL is expensive (wildcard certificates run $70 a year and up), confusing (how does one pick between the 200 different companies selling certificates?), and incredibly difficult to set up (what order should I cat the certificate pieces in again?). If SSL doesn't change, this move will cut the li…

Seriously, SSLs basically 2x the hosting cost for low end hosting packages.

Not great for people running small websites.

Re: Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

#24

I should be happy about this -- who wouldn't want the entire web to be encrypted -- but SSL is so broken for normal people. SSL is expensive (wildcard certificates run $70 a year and up), confusing (how does one pick between the 200 different companies selling certificates?), and incredibly difficult to set up (what order should I cat the certificate pieces in again?). If SSL doesn't change, this move will cut the li…

Why this project: https://letsencrypt.org/ is so important.

From the site: Let’s Encrypt is a new Certificate Authority: It’s free, automated, and open. Arriving Mid-2015

Re: Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

#25
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. The goal is to make running a server only available to corporate entities. It reduce competition from folks like yourself.

If the cost of an SSL certificate is a barrier for you to compete, you should probably do something else.

That's kind of a shitty thing to say, and is pretty much in direct conflict with the notion of a distributed and open internet.

I'm saddened that you are so economically prejudiced against potential content creators.

Re: Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

#26

For Tor and I2P hidden services, HTTPS is redundant so I don't really see the point in punishing people for things like this. Loopback sites are an obvious exception to the "HTTPS is better" rule as well.

I'm pretty sure you want to avoid HTTP websites while on TOR. HTTPS encrypts your connection, while TOR anonymizes it.

Re: Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

#27
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the cost of an SSL certificate is a barrier for you to compete, you should probably do something else.

Can you still serve a static site from AWS' S3 with an SSL cert? Last time I checked, you can't unless you use Cloudfront in front of it.

AFAIK, you can't serve pages from S3 over HTTPS using your own domain name, but https://bucketname.s3.amazonaws.com/ works fine. So if you have some other way of serving your HTML pages, you can include other static assets directly from S3 without triggering browser mixed-content warnings.

Re: Deprecating Non-Secure HTTP

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. The goal is to make running a server only available to corporate entities. It reduce competition from folks like yourself.

If the cost of an SSL certificate is a barrier for you to compete, you should probably do something else.

It just takes a tiny cost to turn off bright 10 year olds from experimenting.
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