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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by stinos »

Jare wrote: post #367
mmgutz wrote: post #157

I prefer it to atom already on OSX. * handles multiple files well. atom ends up being too many tabs with no quick way to get to them * MRU file switching * shows side by side default v user settings * launches must faster (which is strange since it is based on electron) * JS debbuger Can't wait to try the CoreCLR.

I just tried a 100MB C++ file; it opened in 2 seconds, and navigated very fast. No syntax highlighting, however a 20MB C++ file did receive syntax highlighting in the background (took around 30 seconds to reach the bottom), with navigation still 100% fast and responsive. Right now, this thing blows the Atom editor out of the water in terms of performance. For plugins and breadth of available functionality, Atom is mi…

this thing blows the Atom editor out of the water in terms of performance

Idem for Sublime Text. Loading large files on Windows is a total disaster with ST. Which is a shame, it's a great editor on all fronts except loading of large (as in > couple of MB) files which is just something I happen to do quite a lot.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by highmastdon »

Website seems offline, download links are below. Cached version shows links: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nfE4FmK...

OS X: http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/D/5/0D57186C-834B-4...

Windows: http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/D/5/0D57186C-834B-4...

Linux: http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/D/5/0D57186C-834B-4...

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by calgoo »

Intermernet wrote: post #470
clebio wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ... always ... waiting in the wings ... ship This sounds like you're speaking from inside experience. I would _love_ to hear more of this back story. Seriously, to anyone, write it up.

Have a look at the list of projects here http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/ and see how many are probably going to be profitable in the next couple of decades. It's actually pretty amazing how much research Microsoft fund that seems unrelated to any of their current product lines. I think MS Research would be a pretty amazing place to work.

If i remember correctly, Haskell is being developed in MS RD. At least they have hired the main Haskell dev, and I think he was involved in the F# dev work, including ideas from Haskell. IThis was commented on in a talk with the Erlang and Haskell devs.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by MichaelGG »

edgyswingset wrote: post #69
nothrabannosir wrote: post #56

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

My hypothesis is that winning over developers to use their platform will eventually result in more Azure users. I get the feeling Azure will be their one of their next cash cows, and this is one of the steps in enabling that.

Azure should be. The price of running Azure VMs is about double Google Compute Engine VMs. And it's slower to work with, too.

Though I will say that Azure is all about getting you to use non-VM services, to generate lockin to their platform.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by Sammi »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #472
brudgers wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By design, Nadella is getting credit by design for 'overnight changes' many years in the making. Windows 10 reflects the strategic decisions embodied in Vista. Ballmer owned enough stock that along with Gates' backing Microsoft could produce a largely incompatible new version of the Windows OS and Wall Street could like it or lump it. Gates and Ballmer have been divesting Microsoft shares and the new company is behol…

Ballmer wasn't an idiot. Sorry, but yes, the person who said this ( http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-steve-ballmer-thou... ) was, in fact, an idiot. He should have had his walking papers from the board of directors by that Friday.

I think that it's much more reasonable to assume that he was talking defensively, as he actually did see the enormous threat of ios. He sounds like a scared man there.

But both of us are just assuming.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by jrieken »

highmastdon wrote: post #482

Website seems offline, download links are below. Cached version shows links: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nfE4FmK... OS X: http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/D/5/0D57186C-834B-4... Windows: http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/D/5/0D57186C-834B-4... Linux: http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/D/5/0D57186C-834B-4...

Sorry guys but there is an issue with our load balancer which is being worked on right now. In the meantime you can find us here: https://vscode-westeu.azurewebsites.net/

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by eru »

calgoo wrote: post #483
Intermernet wrote: post #470

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have a look at the list of projects here http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/ and see how many are probably going to be profitable in the next couple of decades. It's actually pretty amazing how much research Microsoft fund that seems unrelated to any of their current product lines. I think MS Research would be a pretty amazing place to work.

If i remember correctly, Haskell is being developed in MS RD. At least they have hired the main Haskell dev, and I think he was involved in the F# dev work, including ideas from Haskell. IThis was commented on in a talk with the Erlang and Haskell devs.

ghc, the Haskell compiler everyone uses, is developed mainly at MSR in Cambridge, UK.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by thewhitetulip »

Some time ago I had read a blog post I don't remember where which said that all this credit that Google and Apple are getting for innovating cellphones and tablets, Bill Gates had envisoned all in MS a long time ago, but Ballmer or their management after that didn't focus on them, I had seen a windows phone way way before I had seen a tablet or a phone by apple.

It is nice to see MS changing their strategy, earlier they were all closed up to the boot, now they are opening up, but the only thing about Visual studio is that their Intellisense is completely different than Eclipse's auto complete :D

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by EnderMB »

RCampbell wrote: post #187
EnderMB wrote: post #72

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This is touched upon a bit in this episode of .NET Rocks. http://dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=1131 What I took from it is that Microsoft used to make all their money from Windows and Office, but now the company is looking to transition towards being a service company rather than a product company. As a service-oriented company, restricting developers towards a single platform doesn't really help them, so ulti…

Hey, glad you're listening to the show! I think it's apparent that Microsoft has admitted the reality that the operating system just doesn't matter any more - and you're not going to make money there. So it's all about services, and Azure is one of the sources of those services.

No problem! Thanks for making such an awesome show!
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