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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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The description says it's lightweight, but on my machine it uses over 200 MB of RAM with no files open, and appears to be a Chromium-based thing, much like Atom (as others pointed out, it's based on Electron). Meanwhile, Sublime Text is using less than 100 MB of RAM with dozens of files open, some of them quite big. Visual Studio tends to use less memory than this, too. If "the language services [Microsoft] built for…

Light weight compared to VS proper, which on my mid-sized solution is sitting at 1.2GB, and 250MB with no files open.

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Very cool editor but be warned the download archive is a zipbomb (no root directory).

That's not what a zip bomb is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_bomb

Probably meant a tarbomb but seems like there's no .zip equivalent.

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I prefer it to atom already on OSX. * handles multiple files well. atom ends up being too many tabs with no quick way to get to them * MRU file switching * shows side by side default v user settings * launches must faster (which is strange since it is based on electron) * JS debbuger Can't wait to try the CoreCLR.

I just tried a 100MB C++ file; it opened in 2 seconds, and navigated very fast. No syntax highlighting, however a 20MB C++ file did receive syntax highlighting in the background (took around 30 seconds to reach the bottom), with navigation still 100% fast and responsive. Right now, this thing blows the Atom editor out of the water in terms of performance. For plugins and breadth of available functionality, Atom is mi…

Isn't there any way to analyze and get some of these speedups back upstream?

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Or even IntelliJs skin and components for Swing.

Do the IntelliJ skin and components have any advantages over Eclipse's SWT in your opinion? My understanding is that Swing is much heavier. In fact, SWT was originally designed for Java 2 Micro Edition [1]. [1]: http://flylib.com/books/en/2.120.1.42/1/

Swing was crap at the time, but it got significantly better.

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Nadella didn't buy Nokia. The deal was already announced before he became CEO. He was actually strongly opposed to the idea initially.

> He was actually strongly opposed to the idea initially. Source? What changed his mind?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-03-05/microsoft-...

Either way, Nadella didn't orchestrate the Nokia deal, Ballmer did.

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MFC is not a thin layer over the Win32 API, it's a thick document centric app building framework. If you want a thin layer around Win32 then try WTL.

From wikipedia; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Foundation_Class_Libr... "MFC was introduced in 1992 with Microsoft's C/C++ 7.0 compiler for use with 16-bit versions of Windows as an extremely thin object-oriented C++ wrapper for the Windows API." Thinness is probably in the eye of the beholder, but as one of the many MFC victims back in the day, I found using MFC to be endlessly frustrating because it added a…

My perception on MFC is that it was neither thin, nor particularly well thought out. It felt like something Microsoft started developing for internal use and that they decided to turn it into a product for developers, with all sort of idiosyncratic oddities that make perfect sense when you are Microsoft and none to anyone else.

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I must agree with even though I don't want to. Microsoft seems to legitimately changing its behavior. Personally, I still want more. An open source editor would have been nice. Many good text editors are open source Vim, Emacs, Atom, Notepad++ entering this area with less community seems like an unneeded difficulty.

This editor is built on Atom.

Can't be entirely Atom since so far it actually seems pretty responsive.

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It is now just a month shy of 20 years since that letter was written. And what did Microsoft do? They bought a browser and gave it away for free, cutting off Netscape at the knees, til the company folded and become the Mozilla Foundation. They poured billions and billions of dollars into online initiatives from the Microsoft Network to Bing, including buying dozens and dozens of companies. None of those were big succ…

Were you around 20 years ago? What they did was bundle internet connectivity in with the every windows PC. Sounds ridiculous even mentioning it, right? Back then you couldn't connect to the internet without installing third party tools, usually from an ISP on a disc. You had to install a browser, you couldn't embed hyperlinks in documents, there was no built-in way to get an email client..etcetcetc. The original memo…

But those tools were hard for laypeople to use in 1995. Sure, Windows now had a web browser and email program but you still needed an ISP and the email client was confusing to setup. Hell, their own Microsoft Network service was hard to figure out; one phone number to connect to the proprietary service and a different one for the Web (which never connected for me).

It was much simpler for users to put in the AOL disk and stay inside their walled garden - both conceptually and technically easier for laypeople.

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It is now just a month shy of 20 years since that letter was written. And what did Microsoft do? They bought a browser and gave it away for free, cutting off Netscape at the knees, til the company folded and become the Mozilla Foundation. They poured billions and billions of dollars into online initiatives from the Microsoft Network to Bing, including buying dozens and dozens of companies. None of those were big succ…

> .net which is just a renamed MFC I can't agree with this. MFC was a thin C++ encapsulation of the Windows API. It was a reasonably successful technology but was unloved largely because it was so thin - it didn't try to fix the ugly mess beneath and so left developers wrestling a large smelly octopus. .Net was more of a clean room attempt to provide developers with a clean, sane, consistent API built on a new virtua…

I originally went from Borland C++ Builder to .Net 1.1, the move from one IDE to the other felt very familiar, going from MFC to .Net was nothing like this.
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