So they said that King has already used that to port Candy Crush Saga. That means that the tool is already available. Where?!
Microsoft Makes It Easier to Bring Android and iOS Apps to Windows 10
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Re: Microsoft Makes It Easier to Bring Android and iOS Apps to Windows 10
#22This is the same strategy Blackberry tried, more or less, and I'm skeptical that it'll work out any better for Microsoft.
It's nice enough in the short term, maybe -- Windows Phone users can get some subset of quickly-ported things -- but in the long-term it seems to doom Windows Phone to second-class status; why would you write a real, native Windows Phone app when you can just do a quick half-assed port of your Android/iOS version? And if Windows Phone is just a platform that has a bunch of outdated, bad versions of some Android/iOS apps, there's not a lot of reason to buy it.
Re: Microsoft Makes It Easier to Bring Android and iOS Apps to Windows 10
#23So they said that King has already used that to port Candy Crush Saga. That means that the tool is already available. Where?!
More likely it means Microsoft approached King privately, to have them work on the port in secret, so that Microsoft would have something to show off.
Re: Microsoft Makes It Easier to Bring Android and iOS Apps to Windows 10
#24This is the same strategy Blackberry tried, more or less, and I'm skeptical that it'll work out any better for Microsoft. It's nice enough in the short term, maybe -- Windows Phone users can get some subset of quickly-ported things -- but in the long-term it seems to doom Windows Phone to second-class status; why would you write a real, native Windows Phone app when you can just do a quick half-assed port of your And…
This isn't the strategy Blackberry tried. This is about making code portable, not compiled binaries.
Re: Microsoft Makes It Easier to Bring Android and iOS Apps to Windows 10
#25It is inevitable, they are going where the apps are. Android apps will run in isolated mode on Windows 10 and you can develop Andriod apps using VS. iOS was a surprise but that would make porting more apps easier. I hope this would finally give the enough apps for Windows phone.
> I hope this would finally give the enough apps for Windows phone. I agree; I bought a cheap-o Windows Phone to test and do development with. I'd love to use a Windows phone as my primary phone but 90% of the apps I use and need are nowhere to be found. If this can get them to bring them over, even if they don't tailer the experience it will hopefully still be good.
Especially anything made by or interacting with Google.
Re: Microsoft Makes It Easier to Bring Android and iOS Apps to Windows 10
#26If this makes more people ignore Windows phone as a platform and just develop Android apps I'm all for it.
Anything that hurts MS and their platforms gets a plus in my book. This looks like a nice step in the right (non-ms) direction.
Re: Microsoft Makes It Easier to Bring Android and iOS Apps to Windows 10
#27This is the same strategy Blackberry tried, more or less, and I'm skeptical that it'll work out any better for Microsoft. It's nice enough in the short term, maybe -- Windows Phone users can get some subset of quickly-ported things -- but in the long-term it seems to doom Windows Phone to second-class status; why would you write a real, native Windows Phone app when you can just do a quick half-assed port of your And…
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#28I can't wrap my head around how apps with any kind of advanced animation could work. I mean Windows Phone 8.1 has decent animations, you can do translations, scales, rotates etc but it has no kind of transition effects or bitmap effects at all. At least ios seems to rely quite heavily on that kind of stuff...
Re: Microsoft Makes It Easier to Bring Android and iOS Apps to Windows 10
#29This is the same strategy Blackberry tried, more or less, and I'm skeptical that it'll work out any better for Microsoft. It's nice enough in the short term, maybe -- Windows Phone users can get some subset of quickly-ported things -- but in the long-term it seems to doom Windows Phone to second-class status; why would you write a real, native Windows Phone app when you can just do a quick half-assed port of your And…
This isn't the strategy Blackberry tried. This is about making code portable, not compiled binaries.
Can you explain how that would help?
Also, it appears that it is indeed about allowing compiled binaries to run unmodified.
> Specifically, Windows Mobile (and yes, that's now officially the name for Windows on phones and sub-8 inch tablets) will include an Android runtime layer that'll let them run existing Android apps (both Java and C++) unmodified.... Astoria will in principle work with any old APK, without requiring the developer to do anything but publish the app in the store—as long as the APK sticks to the APIs that Astoria will provide.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/29/mic...
Re: Microsoft Makes It Easier to Bring Android and iOS Apps to Windows 10
#30I wonder if Google will realize it's now going to be forced to push "Android laptops" for "native performance" on the market instead of doing it on top of Chrome OS (like Microsoft is doing here) which is a battle it's going to lose. Android laptops = all 1.5 million apps work by default (although might have some UI issues at first, depending how Google implements them - I think they should just put them in "windows"…
It may or may not be a good idea to have Android laptops, but what is going to 'force' Google to do that?