They found my 2007 email to Steve: http://jonathanmarkwell.com/2013/08/23/me-and-steve-ballmer-... ;)
Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
I seriously can't get too excited about MSFT technologies because - they have an history of discarding products on a whim, - playing the strategic game and stifling smaller competitors, - having a new CEO doesn't mean it's a new company. The people are still there, there are still fragmentation and silos, and the attitude.
Keep in mind that this time they are not just giving away stuff "free as in beer" they are also giving it away not under AGPL, not under GPL, not under LGPL but under a MIT License which is one of the most permissive licenses out there. Contrast this to Oracle/Java. Or about any other huge corporation.
Using a permissive license is the strategy that makes the most sense when your primary goal is proliferation over developer community. Thus, it's nothing surprising.
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#213Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…
Sorry to nick pick but the following download statement is "not optimal": When this tool crashes, we automatically collect crash dumps so we can figure out what went wrong. If you don’t want to send your crash dumps to Microsoft, don't install this tool. So no check box to deactivate this phone-home feature that used to be standard in Microsoft products like Visual Studio, Office and Windows. That's a regression. (So…
Visual Code is a brand new tool, and we only use the telemetry to help improve product quality, and better understand how our tool and features are being used so we can know how to improve VSCode. By the time we exit Preview, we will provide a way to opt out of this reporting.
Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
Curious, if they just launched cross platform .net core, why didn't they just .net? Why typescript?
Cross platform .Net doesn't include a cross platform UI environment... though cross-platform WPF would be pretty awesome (not sure how much effort to extend on their efforts for silverlight would go).
You could use native interop into something like qt. Mono already does this for cross platform System.Windows.Forms.
Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor
#215Sweet! I don't think I'll be able to use it until it supports React/ES6, but the debugging features look awesome!
Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry to nick pick but the following download statement is "not optimal": When this tool crashes, we automatically collect crash dumps so we can figure out what went wrong. If you don’t want to send your crash dumps to Microsoft, don't install this tool. So no check box to deactivate this phone-home feature that used to be standard in Microsoft products like Visual Studio, Office and Windows. That's a regression. (So…
Free tool comes with strings attached, so?
Free BETA program comes with a clause that you must submit crash data. Sounds fine to me.
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#217Wow, it can be downloaded now!
Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor
#218Lots of "Microsoft" on the front page of HN.
That's usual phenomenon, lol.
Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
I must agree with even though I don't want to. Microsoft seems to legitimately changing its behavior. Personally, I still want more. An open source editor would have been nice. Many good text editors are open source Vim, Emacs, Atom, Notepad++ entering this area with less community seems like an unneeded difficulty.
This editor is built on Atom.
It seems this is the predecessor: Visual Studio Online (2013): http://weblogs.asp.net/jongalloway/a-quick-look-at-the-new-v... (scroll down half way to see the screenshots and videos) So the idea and technology behind it predates Satya Nadella CEO appointment by at least 3 months.
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough', and worst of all, Microsoft completely missed the boat on mobile. The Microsoft of old would have died out eventually. What we are seeing is not something you see often - a behemoth of a company doing a 'pivot'. What would you do remain relevant in the face of the majority of the internet services no…
Linux owns everything else, but Microsoft still own the corporate - and home - desktop. Devs using Linux or Mac are not the majority of users.
Except the home desktop is a dying (or dead) breed - and many people will either have OSX laptops at home, or no traditional computer at all, only phones and tablets... They could choose Office 365 to some extent, but they could just as easily choose gApps.