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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Sorry to nick pick but the following download statement is "not optimal": When this tool crashes, we automatically collect crash dumps so we can figure out what went wrong. If you don’t want to send your crash dumps to Microsoft, don't install this tool. So no check box to deactivate this phone-home feature that used to be standard in Microsoft products like Visual Studio, Office and Windows. That's a regression. (So…

Free tool comes with strings attached, so?

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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I've installed and tried it.

I am sure I must be missing something. It is a text editor, feels sublime-y. But it doesn't seem to be even a smaller cousing to Visual Studio, so the name is confusing.

It seems to be geared towards JS/Html. If so, we already have plenty of tools for that.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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There's a lot more info on it in its documentation here: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs Looks interesting, but I don't really see much that differentiates it from Atom, Sublime, Brackets, etc. Also the language support is kinda barebones--no syntax highlighting for Go or Rust? Only intellisense for Javascript and web stuff? Debugging only for Node.js?

no syntax highlighting for Go or Rust? surely you jest ;)

We have Go syntax highlighting today, but not Rust - but look for it in the next update!

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Sorry to nick pick but the following download statement is "not optimal": When this tool crashes, we automatically collect crash dumps so we can figure out what went wrong. If you don’t want to send your crash dumps to Microsoft, don't install this tool. So no check box to deactivate this phone-home feature that used to be standard in Microsoft products like Visual Studio, Office and Windows. That's a regression. (So…

Visual Studio Online "Monaco" code editor from November 14, 2013 seems to be the predecessor: http://weblogs.asp.net/jongalloway/a-quick-look-at-the-new-v... (scroll half way down for many screenshots and videos)

"This is the Monaco editor component from Erich Gamma's group out of Zurich. It was originally written in JavaScript but gradually rewritten in TypeScript. When Anders speaks about teams within Microsoft building large TypeScript systems, this is one he is talking about" as one comment mentioned on a related article "It's also used in VisualStudio and IE11's new F12 tools.": http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ARichNewJavaScriptCodeEditorSp...

"Code uses a newer, faster version of the same industrial-strength HTML-based editor that has powered the “Monaco” cloud editor, Internet Explorer's F12 Tools, and other projects.": https://code.visualstudio.com/Docs

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough', and worst of all, Microsoft completely missed the boat on mobile. The Microsoft of old would have died out eventually. What we are seeing is not something you see often - a behemoth of a company doing a 'pivot'. What would you do remain relevant in the face of the majority of the internet services no…

You're completely lost in your Silicon Valley mindset. Most of the western world still shows up to work and uses Office on Windows. Even in tech, I've seen non-technical workers request PC's just so they can use "real" Office. Office for Mac doesn't cut it. And while it might be good enough for you, it's not for many people who rely on Word, Office, and PowerPoint for work. Oh, and Google Docs is hardly free in the o…

I'm not saying this would happen tomorrow. Microsoft has enough inertia to fire all their developers and just sell the current version of Windows and Office for a long time. Hell, some 30% of computer users in China still use Windows XP.

After a few generations raised on smartphones and tablets without any Microsoft apps, Microsoft Office would just be a curiosity their parents used, like Corel Draw or dBase.

Fortunately Microsoft has taken note; there's rumor of Android Office apps, and the latest version of the Surface tablet is quite popular.

Microsoft, and in particular, Office is still going strong, but the stranglehold it had in the 90's is gone.

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Google may want businesses to pay, but going to docs.google.com and using your personal email address works just fine - much to the chagrin of IT departments everywhere.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Sorry to nick pick but the following download statement is "not optimal": When this tool crashes, we automatically collect crash dumps so we can figure out what went wrong. If you don’t want to send your crash dumps to Microsoft, don't install this tool. So no check box to deactivate this phone-home feature that used to be standard in Microsoft products like Visual Studio, Office and Windows. That's a regression. (So…

I'm hoping this is only while it's in development/beta?

Yep, that's what all Microsoft public betas and previews do. That's why they release them, to get data.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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post #176
post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Sorry to nick pick but the following download statement is "not optimal": When this tool crashes, we automatically collect crash dumps so we can figure out what went wrong. If you don’t want to send your crash dumps to Microsoft, don't install this tool. So no check box to deactivate this phone-home feature that used to be standard in Microsoft products like Visual Studio, Office and Windows. That's a regression. (So…

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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I must agree with even though I don't want to. Microsoft seems to legitimately changing its behavior. Personally, I still want more. An open source editor would have been nice. Many good text editors are open source Vim, Emacs, Atom, Notepad++ entering this area with less community seems like an unneeded difficulty.

This editor is built on Atom.

Neato -- lots of JS code in: Visual Studio Code.app/Contents/Resources/app

Try using it to view its own source code inside the app!

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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The push to open source started under Ballmer and has been gaining momentum the past few years. You saw some of the very early open source work debut when Scott Guthrie open sourced ASP.NET MVC 2 in 2010. He (Guthrie) blogged a few times about evangelizing open source in Microsoft, and given today's news, he gained quite a bit of traction over the years. It also helped that ASP.NET MVC is a pretty sold web framework…

Funny thing is most MS devs seem to think that asp.net is on its way out.

There is no real alternative to ASP.NET.
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